[ale] Comcast linux...

Wed Jan 7 18:38:28 EST 2004

I just thought it was funny, though... You think you know the software and wam, somebody hits you with cipher strength?

Mike Murphy <mike at tyderia.net> wrote:Just to be helpful: that 40bit cipher is left over from when US 
companies couldn't export 128bit encription. M$ answer with Win 98 in 
most cases was only to include the 40bit version of IE. If you really 
wan to just get that working, you should be able to download IE for your 
windows box with 128bit encryption from M$. I guess you'd have to burn 
the full install onto a cd at work though...

Berlin Brown wrote:
> Couple more things and I wont waste this maillist with my dribble.
> 1. I have a copy of Revolution OS, if I remember to go the meeting I can 
> give it to whoever(keeps of course, I have already seen it).
> 2. Are there any good cheap local unix/linux solutions I can telnet 
> into a host type. I really dont want a national solution, because I am 
> a lazy and dont want to shop around. I trust local stuff. Ideally I 
> want local, telnet(if they do that, I could go with ssh). And obviously 
> a website, storage, then C/C++, java possibly, I know I am pushing it, 
> but I am giving away a dvd.
> 3. This is the funny part, kind of goes along with the comcast linux 
> story. If you read my first couple of posts you will get the idea.
> But here is the final update.
> Ok I got this comcast cable, cool, just moved, first I wanted linux to 
> work with the internet(thats all I use). 
> It didnt work, ok cool. Well, screw it, I will just wipe this machine, 
> go windows. Ok, plug the modem in, ok, still doesnt work. 
> Ok, let me think...I will just call Comcast, blah, blah, turn on this 
> setting, these preferences, set this, set that. Internet explorer of 
> course.
> Press button, no go.
> Ok, let me try something else, no go.
> Ok, days pass...
> I reinstall my machine. Ok, I didnt want to touch my freebsd machine, 
> screw it, lets load this one. Windows installed.
> Still not working...
> Summary;
> two machines wiped clean, 3 - 4years of work and setups.
> Maybe somebody has forgot to turn something off at comcast. 
> Let me call again... blah, blah, ok let me load your mac address, come 
> back the next day it should be up.
> That has to fix it.
> Today is the day, I check, no go... doesnt work.
> WTF???
> Called comcast, blah, blah, try this, open up internet explorer... do 
> this(of course
> I have done this 99 million times...
> I wait calm down, I am an engineer let me check the voltage on this 
> line, the cable is not synced properly with the AC input, thats it!!!!
> Let me try a different socket. Where is my oscilloscope.
> Still not working.
> Now What? Let me just call comcast, I am annoyed, I might as well annoy 
> these guys.
> I got a tech support that sounded pretty smart, talked real fast you 
> know the deal...
> maybe this guy knows his stuff.
> He went through something compilicated proxy stuff, ok this guy is good.
> Still didnt work, ok thats it... I am losing it.
> Finally I say, here is my version of IE, my version of this, that 
> win98se blah,blah....
> He says, go to Internet Explorer, go to help and about...
> I told you the version of Internet Explorer already, why would I do that.
> he says, 'just listen'. 
> Check your cipher strength. My what?????
> Cipher strength, what is it. 40-bit, thats your problem, what????
> My cipher strength, it should be 128-bit, how the f do I change that, 
> doesnt matter.
> This guy was good though, never would have thought of that.
> 
> I havent tried it yet(at work), but I think that is the issue, and I 
> will call it closed. 
> Point of all this:
> 1. I dont know everything.
> 2. Tech support guys arent that bad.
> 3. Maybe next time I get I windows product, I should actually pay for 
> it, so that is has all the CDs.
> 
> 
> */"Michael H. Warfield" /* wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 11:51:50PM -0500, Byron A Jeff wrote:
> 
> > It's dhcpcd (as alluded to above). And dhcpcd caches the previous
> address.
> > I'm not sure why it didn't do a broadcast after the NAK, but
> killing the
> > cache solved the problem.
> 
> Opppsss. Missed that rather obvious hint. :-)
> 
> My preference if for dhcpcd and I've never had that problem. In
> fact, the reason I prefer dhcpcd was after pump kept screwing up on
> Media1 / ATT / ComCast. Dhcpcd fixed the problems with lease renewals
> (no change) and new leases (new addresses). Never had to delete the
> cache
> to get it to work. Really strange you ran into that.
> 
> > > My experience with the tech was when the guy came to the house with
> > > the cable modem (which I purchased rather than leased) and
> walked down into
> > > my basement and came face to face with my rack in my NOC... I
> told him he was
> > > connecting to the mini tower on the top of the rack on the
> left. He asked,
> > > "What does it run, Linux?" I said "Correct." He said "I don't
> think we
> > > support Linux." My reply was "Good. I support Linux. You
> support giving
> > > me a network connection. Just call these numbers (the MAC
> addresses) in."
> > > He did and was amaze when it all simply poped up and worked
> perfect, first
> > > shot, when I typed the ifup command. Repeat a second time a few
> months
> > > later at my son's digs.
> 
> > Many will walk out though given the scenario above. Also they
> have a browser
> > based registration now, which is better than waiting 45 minutes
> on the phone
> > for the MAC addresses to be provisioned, like one tech I had.
> 
> I've heard that said but I've never run into one, myself, that has.
> And Scott and I have never picked any bones with them that our end
> is Linux.
> 
> > BTW Mike, I believe that your attitude is the right one. But I'm
> sure that
> > for every one of you, there are 10 folks who think they can
> support the
> > connection, but really can't. That's why the techs are so scripted.
> 
> > BAJ
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