[ale] Debian. Grr.
james at sumners.ath.cx
Sun Feb 22 14:49:43 EST 2004
I just asks you if you would like to run tasksel or dselect to install things
outside of what is required to run. If you choose not to run either of them you
will have a completely set up system (it may not do everything you want but it
is complete nonetheless).
If you are on dial-up then you still have the cds. Typically people considering
Debian are not on dial-up for the simple reason that Debian relies on the
internet (the security server doesn't propogate down to CDs for quite some
time). In fact, it is possible to install Debian completely from the internet:
I never run tasksel because I would rather install the bare minimum and tasksel
installs a bunch of packages that I don't particularly want. I don't use dselect
because, in my experience, the keys to navigate the program randomly change in
the midst of using it. dselect is a royal pain is going away very soon.
You can use 'apt-config' to specify the types of sources you want and select
from a list of official mirrors.
On 22 Feb 2004 11:39:35 -0700
Joe Knapka <jknapka at kneuro.net> wrote:
> James Sumners <james at sumners.ath.cx> writes:
> > 1) Forget 'dselect' even exists. If you want to use something like it then
> > use'aptitude'.
> > 2) Use http or ftp sources.
> (1) I'm doing a first-time install, and the installer wants to run
> tasksel and dselect. I don't seem to have much of a choice about
> this. I have to run one or the other, it seems. (What happens
> if I choose to do neither?)
> (2) But what if I'm on a 28K dialup link? (I'm not, but it's the
> principle of the thing...)
> Anyhoo. I finally got through the "selecting packages" bit, but
> it refuses to install anything because "Some errors occurred while
> unpacking" ("parse error in file /var/lib/dpkg/status near line
> 18090: missing package name"). This seems to happen no matter
> what configuration I choose in the tasksel menu.
> I know, I know, I'm one of those irritating people who bitches and
> bitches about stuff when the real problem is that I can't get
> with the program and learn to adapt to a new environment. There's
> some truth to that, I guess. Thanks for responding to me at
> all :-)
> -- Joe
> > On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 02:59:04 -0500 (EST)
> > Joe Knapka <jknapka at kneuro.net> wrote:
> > > I'm trying once again to install Debian. My last attempt was in maybe
> > > '98 or so, and ended in frustration before I even got the machine to
> > > boot. This attempt is on the verge of ending in frustration, though
> > > the machine *has* booted a minimal Debian system from the HD.
> > >
> > > The main problem I'm having is that "tasksel" and "dselect" seem to be
> > > user-unfriendly in the extreme. So far I have not gotten "apt" to
> > > install *anything* but the minimal system. I boot the machine, run
> > > "base-config", and then I have to sit in front of the machine swapping
> > > CDs (*seven* of them) while it "scans them for index files"
> > > (presumably to figure out which packages are on which disks), taking
> > > about a minute per disk to do so. This is just enough time for me to
> > > get distracted by something else, so it probably amounts to more like
> > > five minutes per disk. It may not be the case that I must sit through
> > > the "scanning" process every time I run "base-config", but I see no
> > > indication that it's *not* a requirement, so I don't feel safe
> > > skipping this. Then I get into tasksel and/or dselect, and I
> > > invariably press some wrong key that causes it to start installing
> > > stuff before I've managed to select what I want to be
> > > installed. Oopsie, abort, run base-config, drat, have to scan all
> > > those bloody CDs again... It's really a drag. Apparently I've been
> > > spoiled by Red Hat and Slackware installers.
> > >
> > > Do I *really* need to let it scan every CD every time?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > -- Joe Knapka
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> > I used to be interested in Windows NT, but the more I see of it the more it
> > looks like traditional Windows with a stabler kernel. I don't find anything
> > technically interesting there. In my opinion MS is a lot better at making
> > money than it is at making good operating systems. -- Linus Torvalds
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I used to be interested in Windows NT, but the more I see of it the more it
looks like traditional Windows with a stabler kernel. I don't find anything
technically interesting there. In my opinion MS is a lot better at making money
than it is at making good operating systems. -- Linus Torvalds
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