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Brian Stanaland brian.stanaland at gmail.com
Fri Dec 31 09:53:50 EST 2004


I agree.  Mac looks as strong as ever.  And keep in mind what Jonathan
said.  IBM is out of the PC/ Wintel business.  Makes sense for them to
get Mac OSX on their Power processor servers.  I personally have never
used any Apple product on more than a cursory basis but I'm looking
really hard at the 12" iBook.  I mean, at $999 (less some places
online) I can't find a Windows notebook that looks like a better deal.
 Sure you can find cheaper but not in 12" with discrete graphics.  Of
course an under $500 iMac
(http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0412expo2.html) would sure get my
attention!

Brian


On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 09:31:00 -0500, Jonathan Rickman <jrickman at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 09:01:22 -0500, Christopher Fowler
> <cfowler at outpostsentinel.com> wrote:
> > http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1745930,00.asp
> >
> > Read above article and discuss.  I've always wanted an iMac ever since
> > Jobs went to a UNIX platform.  I want a laptop that is created to run
> > UNIX not  UNIX that is massaged to run on a laptop.  My problem with
> > PC's is that there is always a piece of hardware not supported and
> > sometimes running Linux on them can cause issues.  But I just can not
> > get myself to spend that much on a laptop when I can buy a PC based
> > laptop that is extremely fast and has many benefits.
> 
> Dvorak is a babbling, incoherent, washed up PC promoter who has been
> helping to perpetuate the idea that "no, this time it is really
> over...the mac is dying" for the last decade. Meanwhile Apple
> continues to sell more units every year. Now we have this idea that
> since their market share dropped a bit this year that it means fewer
> macs sold. Fraid not, Apple is selling more macs than ever. Now the
> scary part is that with the introduction of Tiger (OS 10.4) and Oracle
> 10g for OS X, the macs will become a serious contender in the
> enterprise market as soon as we start to see IBM (yes, IBM!) start
> offering support for them. The truth of the matter is that Apple, and
> the lowly Mac, are positioned to become a driving force in the
> computing industry again. It takes a while to draw all the lines that
> connect the dots, but the signs point to Apple becoming a serious
> player at home, work, and anywhere else silicon is used to process
> information. I'm not a big mac guy, but I've been playing with the
> Tiger beta for a few weeks now and I have been more impressed by this
> OS than I have ever been by anything done in lintel/wintel
> country...Solaris 10 included. How well it scales remains to be seen,
> but I suspect that somewhere deep inside an IBM facility there is a
> big pSeries machine running OS X (or at least Darwin) to investigate
> that very thing. Apple has the reputation for being overpriced, but
> before you convince yourself of that you should probably read this:
> 
> http://osopinion.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=3095&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
> 
> and this:
> 
> http://osopinion.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=3133&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
> 
> Now go on over to the Apple web site and price out 2 XServe G5 boxes
> maxed out on RAM and CPU with an XServe RAID box maxed out at 5.6 TB.
> Compare that to the best you can get from Dell. Hint: One will be 5
> figures, and the other 6. :)
> 
> Apple has certainly got my attention, despite what Dvorak may say.
> 
> --
> Jonathan
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