[ale] technology/politics correlation?

[Brian Stanaland]

And what gets me is that the database behind the frontend is MySQL on
Red Hat.  He's written stuff for and uses linux all the time.  Don't
know what kind of background/training he has.  He may be self-taught. 
He uses ASP scripts?  Not sure, I'm not a web dev guy.  I know the
webserver is IIS and the pages are .asp.

Brian


On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 15:00:50 -0500, Jeff Hubbs <hbbs at comcast.net> wrote:
> The attitude of this developer is something I encounter a lot, and I
> absolutely loathe it.  At the risk of sounding Cosby-esque, is this what
> we (meaning the collective breadth of the IT industry) worked so hard
> for?  I cannot understand what must go on in the minds of the people who
> promulgate, encourage, and passively accept this.
> 
> I wouldn't even like there to be a "company standard" Linux, even though
> I know that goes on all the time - there are people who just can't
> accept freedom even when it walks in the door and sits on their couch.
> Let me be clear:  standardize on STANDARDS, not PRODUCTS!!  Standardize
> on TCP/IP, SCSI, Postscript, Ethernet, PCI, ASCII, letter-size paper,
> IPSEC, NTSC, 120VAC!
> 
> Whenever vendors try to hijack a standard or create a standard that
> competes with an open one, end users lose.  The vendors sometimes win,
> but only for a while.  End users win and win for good when open
> standards work well and remain open.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 13:54, James P. Kinney III wrote:
> > On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 13:27, Brian Stanaland wrote:
> > > I installed Firefox on my work PC and surf with it exclusively.
> > > Except, of course, for the web-based applications written in-house,
> > > which do not work with Firefox.  I pointed it out to the guy who wrote
> > > it and he said..."It's a good thing IE is the 'Company Standard' so I
> > > don't need to worry about other browsers."
> >
> > At the risk of sounding lik an A&&****, your company's developer is a
> > moron. So far, every application/website I have found or developed that
> > looks and works well under Firefox, looks and works just as well under
> > IE.
> >
> > The converse is not true. There are numerous things that IE supports,
> > and bone-headed developers use (or totally moronic managment requires)
> > that have not been accepted as a web standard primarily for reasons of
> > open accessability by W3C.
> >
> > We have an abundance of youth. What we need is a fountain of smart.
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 15:42:13 -0500, Pete Hardie <pete.hardie at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > //snipped//
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I keep trying to get my work IT to realize that IE and Outlook are the
> > > > cause of 90% of their pain, but it's slow going.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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