[ale] Earthlink vs. Send Mail

[Jerald Sheets]

There may be a point of diminishing return here...

You can get hostin for that kind of deal for about 20 bucks a month.  

If you look at 20 bucks a month to manage your own mailing list, on your own
server (portion) with a good bandwidth rate, who could ask for anything
more?


Jerald M. Sheets jr.
Sr. UNIX Systems Administrator
(404) 293-8762

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-----Original Message-----
From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of Jay
Loden
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 4:23 PM
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
Subject: Re: [ale] Earthlink vs. Send Mail

You can use your own server, but you don't need sendmail to send from YOUR
computer.  If you need the mail to actually go out on the web, you can use
Earthlink's smtp server, the way Mike Terzo recommended: 

On Thursday 02 December 2004 02:50 pm, Mike Terzo wrote:
> Earthlink, blocks outgoing SMTP.  You can use your local sendmail 
> server if you like, but you will have to configure it to use a smart 
> relay to send it to an earthlink smtp server.
>
> in your sendmail.cf add
>
> DSsmtp.earthlink.net
> It's been a while since I've used my own smtp, but you should have no 
> problem with incoming connections to that port, so you should be able 
> to receive mail just fine.
>
> --mike terzo

Otherwise, if you're just sending from one account on the same machine to
another (i.e. from "root" to "jay") then you will need to configure sendmail
to only work within your private LAN, and not mail outside the LAN.  I don't
know anything about configuring sendmail really so I can't help you on that.


For Postfix, all I did to make it use Earthlink's smtp server instead of
sending mail directly from my IP was to add the following line to my main.cf
file for Postfix:

relayhost = smtp.earthlink.net

So, basically, you either need to make sendmail use smtp.earthlink.net (or
whatever the smtp server is for Earthlink for you), or you need sendmail to
not try and send mail out past the LAN onto the net.  If it's not sending it
oustide your LAN, Earthlink won't be blocking it because it never gets
outside your router. 

Hope that helps,
-Jay


On Thursday 02 December 2004 02:53 pm, Oysgelt,  Moisey G [IBM Contractor
for 
Sprint] wrote:
> The reason why I need to have mail server is simple, when Linux runs it
> sometimes create e-mail from cron job, etc.
> I'd like to send those e-mails to another account.
> I expect very low usage.
>
> Can you send your config file, if it does not have any secret info.
>
> Can you be more specific how you use Earthlink account?
>
> I my area speed factory do not provide service, and I have to finish 1
> year contract with earthlink.
>
>
> Moisey Oysgelt       |  Do not keep all eggs in the same basket
>
>                               |  Microsalt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of Jay
> Loden
> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 2:40 PM
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> Subject: Re: [ale] Earthlink vs. Send Mail
>
> i also have Earthlink, and when I was running a mail server in my
> apartment, I
> just used earthlink's smtp servers (set it as a relay host in my postfix
>
> config).
>
> Out of curiousity, is there some reason you have to use your own smtp
> server?
> What's the problem with using Earthlink's server?
>
> -Jay
>
>
> On Thursday 02 December 2004 01:10 pm, Oysgelt,  Moisey G [IBM
> Contractor for
>
> Sprint] wrote:
> > I've underestimated SendMail settings.
> >
> > I'm enjoining using SUSE 8.0 at my home computer.
> >
> > I have Earthlink as my ISP provider.
> >
> >
> >
> > When I tried to configure Send Mail with my authentication I got an
> > error.
> >
> >
> >
> > My Investigation shoed that Earthlink blocked port 25 for sending
>
> mail,
>
> > from any other than client email applications.
> >
> >
> >
> > Is there a way to configure Send Mail to accept my credentials and use
> > it as my local mail server?
> >
> >
> >
> > I'd look into Send Mail document and did not find any reliable answer.
> >
> >
> >
> > Any tips will be appreciated.
> >
> >
> >
> > Moisey O
>
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