[ale] OT: electronic voting info

[Greg]

I was just about to say "if it ain't broke don't fix it", but I guess I got
beaten to the line. If there needs to be a recount, fine - all, yes, *all*
recounts in FLA had Bush the winner. If we need to count ballots 3 times,
fine with me.  As long as all recounts have the same result in a
non-partisan count, I am fine with that - in fact that just proves the point
that punch card ballots show reproducibility.

Greg

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org]On Behalf Of F.
> Grant Robertson
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 6:22 PM
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> Subject: RE: [ale] OT: electronic voting info
>
>
> 37 states already use Diebold's system in some degree or another.
>
> Do you realize that the ACLU numbers for "errors" on punchcard ballots
> include situations where someone just simply chose not to vote in a race?
> So, say, if you voted for President, and then skipped some local ballot
> initiative you didn't know enough about.. The ACLU considers that
> an error,
> not a conscious choice.
>
> Punchcards elected every president of the last 40 years, yet suddenly they
> are the single reason people can't figure out how to properly
> vote anymore?
> Yah, that must be it.. It couldn't have anything to do with their complete
> inability to hold a thought process long enough to trace the line
> from name
> to hole could it? Yet any time I hear someone put forth personal
> responsibility in voting or the idea that just maybe if you can't
> figure out
> _how_ to vote you shouldn't be voting, everyone cries FOUL!
>
> I'm not saying we should give civics tests at the polling room
> door but, if
> you can't cast your vote for the candidate you chose and be certain that
> your vote won't be miscounted unless some catastrophe occurs, maybe you
> should be reading a book instead of waiting in line to cast a
> vote you don't
> understand.
>
> Reach the bottom? God, I hope this _is_ the bottom, can it get much worse?
>
> Oh, and, as an aside, just because your in a state that doesn't (yet) use
> the diebold system, rest assured, your money is still in their pocket. Our
> benevolent federal government in it's infinite wisdom passed legislation
> that mandated the end of punchcards, and offered 100 million dollars in
> funding to "buy back" the punchcard systems from states that removed them
> and replaced them with an electronic alternative.
>
> -G
>
> P.s. Anyone read the Salon article that his slashdot today? I've
> got to read
> that book.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org]On Behalf Of
> tfreeman at intel.digichem.net
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 6:00 PM
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> Subject: Re: [ale] OT: electronic voting info
>
>
>
> I somehow doubt the bottom will be reached. (Not that I'm resting any
> easier two states north of you 8-(. I'm not picking on Georgia.) As a
> society we are likely to use Diebold type equipment without proper
> scrutiny and without proper public understanding of the weaknesses until
> something like the Florida chad situation strikes.
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