[ale] Re: UPS thread
tfreeman at intel.digichem.net
tfreeman at intel.digichem.net
Sat Oct 11 16:53:32 EDT 2003
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003, Hogg, Russell E wrote:
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> Hmm..
> Pumped flywheel and UPS into Google.
>
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=flywheel+UPS&btnG=Goo
> gle+Search
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> Whole pile off stuff came back. Some of it's interesting reading
And as I've played with it - I've still got a challenge - where and how
much to purchase something on the home level? I somehow don't think a $15K
flywheel system buried in the back yard is going to help me sell this
house a few years, although it would be _really_ nice to keep the
refrigerator going next time Duke power drops this neighborhoods power (I
think we had three sessions of two days or more last winter without
power.)
<<snip some good reading links>>
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> If memory serves, we have hit this topic once or twice before. 'Couple of
> whimpers/nits/whatever.
>
> One of the other posters has wondered why modern devices don't carry
> enough reserve capacitance to survive a 30 sec power blip. IMHO, I suspect
> that weight and upfront cost are the culprits - if your vcr is too heavy,
> Ms. Consumer will not lug same home, and if there is a 2% premium charge,
> Mr. Consumer will skip over to something less costly upfront. After all,
> resetting the clock and channels every week or so doesn't cost any money
> 8-).
>
> I rather like to see a home UPS based on flywheel technology. Fewer toxins
> to deal with at the end of life cycle (although recycling lead batteries
> seems to have gotten much better lately) for one thing, and I suspect
> longer service life for flywheels. Also, a flywheel should
> charge/discharge at higher rates without damage indefinitely.
>
> With respect to battery concepts, I'd love to see some Li ion cells
> adapted to the computer/electronic power supply. In addition to fewer
> toxics at the end of the life cycle, they can be produced as fibers,
> meaning that part of the case could be molded from the battery. (Wonder if
> there is a way to incorporate a battery as part of the Motherboard circuit
> board?) Put a largish capacitor early in the power supply to buffer
> circuits from a local surge, while hanging 2-4 minutes of Li ion batteries
> off the low voltage DC side to allow for an orderly shut down. The trick
> would be getting the consumer to pay for such.
>
> Since the general consumer seems unlikely to pay for such niceties, any of
> the engineering types here have leads on building your own power supplies
> and/or UPSs? I'm probably too lazy to do either, but the knowledge of the
> technology would be of interest anyway.
>
>
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