[ale] OT: more info on where all the jobs are (going...)

[Chris Fowler]

On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 02:35, ChangingLINKS.com wrote:
> oh oh. I just realized that my last post was insensitive to the members of 
> this list who have spent years gaining knowledge in IT. It was like I was 
> say, "Forget what you have been doing and get another job."
> 
> Perhaps the displaced IT professionals can be more entreprenuerial and create 
> software that sells? Is there no other way to make money than to rely on 
> someone else to provide jobs?

Why would anyone buy software when they can get it free?

> 
> I was able to design software that others pay me to use (I am a script-kidee 
> insofar as repairing broken code that I get and creating new code with heavy 
> limitations). But, I have never had to depend on my entreprenuership to put 
> food on the table. 
> 
> I don't know how hard it is to use IT skill to create cashflow without the use 
> of a resume'.
> 
> Drew
> 
> On Saturday 15 March 2003 21:12, Mike Panetta wrote:
> > On Sat, 2003-03-15 at 11:55, James P. Kinney III wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2003-03-15 at 14:26, ChangingLINKS.com wrote:
> > > > I value your opinion in this case. However, I don't think that
> > > > corporations are short-sighted, blind or stupid.
> > >
> > > Corporations are neither short-sighted, blind or stupid. They are
> > > single-minded. That single-minded purpose is bottom-line profit. That is
> > > the only reason corporations exist. They will do anything to boost that
> > > bottom line. As a rule, corporations have no morals. As morals have no
> > > weight on the balance sheet, there is no reason to have morals. So they
> > > don 't.
> > >
> > > If a corporation sees that they can produce their product for lees cost
> > > that they are right, they will change production methods. There is no
> > > thought to any factor other than the bottom line.
> >
> > Isn't the bottom line kinda pointless if there is no one left employed in
> > a capacity that would allow them to buy the product for the prices its sold
> > for?  I see (or rather hear of) all these companies outsourcing all the IT
> > work, and yet I do not hear of any of them reducing prices.  How can anyone
> > but other corporations afford to buy any of these software products if the
> > price is not reduced?  Even if all IT workers in the US went out and found
> > lower paying jobs tomorrow just to put food on the table, how could they
> > afford to purchase any of the products that are being manufactured by these
> > companies?
> >
> > How can corporations exist without employees?  Someone somewhere has to
> > produce what the company sells.  There also must exist a consumer to buy
> > the product. A consumer cannot consume without the resources to do so, so
> > they must seek employment at a corporation.  If all corporations outsource
> > all their employees, they will have lost their consumers as well...  Or am
> > I missing something?
> >
> > I do not for see this as being anything but a disaster for the economy of
> > the US. It seems that capitalism has failed...
> >
> > Mike
> >
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