[ale] OT: more info on where all the jobs are (going...)

Greg runman at speedfactory.net
Sun Mar 16 04:26:59 EST 2003


Well, actually, if India has used all of the money Bill gave them plus the
money they saved to build a really good internet, their IT will survive a
few nukes, as that is what the internet is designed to do.  I mean, not all
Indian programmers are in 2 or 3 places.

Greg

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-admin at ale.org [mailto:ale-admin at ale.org]On Behalf Of
> ChangingLINKS.com
> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 9:51 PM
> To: ale at ale.org
> Subject: Re: [ale] OT: more info on where all the jobs are (going...)
>
>
> Riiiiiiiiight. You say that at a time when America has millions
> protesting
> it's aggresive intent to wage war on a country that is ironically
> guilty of
> charges that could be levied against itself.
>
> What is more likely to happen is WE will go to war, and the jobs will be
> safely nestled in countries like Pakistan, India and
> Romaina/Russia. The fact
> that the work can be internet based greatly reduces the effect that a
> localized war would have. India gets nuked? Take the business to
> any country
> that is *not* trying to wage war and has lower prices, and etc.
> (see article)
>
> One could remotely construe the corporation's' exporting labor as a moral
> political protest against high prices, economic instability, and unfair
> competition for global labor. Or not.
>
> Drew
>
>
> On Saturday 15 March 2003 19:35, George Johnson wrote:
> > Yes.  Just wait until Pakistan hits India with a nuke in just that right
> > spot that takes out the technology parks, or Russia goes south from
> > being a "friendly" nation.  Then these corporate bozos will scramble
> > back to what is left of us that will still know how to do the job.  Then
> > the $$$ will be sky high due to demand.
> >
> > I only wonder what will happen during a world war if most of these
> > countries become enemies or the communication is broken.  We will find
> > out these jobs were better off on our shores.  Then there is the
> > manufacturing that will have to be rebuilt for our own war machine.
> >
> > So this over seas sell off of our jobs, I believe, will come back to
> > haunt us in the end.
> >
> > gj
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ale-admin at ale.org [mailto:ale-admin at ale.org] On Behalf Of Marvin
> > Dickens
> > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 4:55 AM
> > To: ale at ale.org
> > Subject: Re: [ale] OT: more info on where all the jobs are (going...)
> >
> > On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 14:43:19 -0500 (EST)
> >
> > "J.M. Taylor" <jtaylor at onlinea.com> wrote the following:
> > > Geoffrey said:
> > > > I've been on the
> > > > receiving end of software produced overseas as well as by
> >
> > contractors
> >
> > > > who can't even verbally communicate.  The code works, but sucks.
> >
> > It's
> >
> > > > not well written, it's not documented (if they don't have a command
> >
> > of
> >
> > > > the language, they can't speak OR write it).
> >
> > Look, there is a lot that can happen in this year alone much less 3 to 5
> > years from now. The fact is that everday the world is becoming less
> > stable politically and economically. This is true for the US as well as
> > Europe and Asia. Think about it like this: If the US is 1 % more
> > politically and economically unstable today than it was 5 years ago
> > equates to a  50% rise in instability in emmerging third world nations
> > (Like India and Russia). As a CEO or member of a board, would you bet
> > your future in outsourcing IT into countries that are seriously
> > unstable? I think not...
> >
> > My point is that all of the talking heads (Like the Gardner Group...)
> > making predictions regarding overseas outsourcing are not taking into
> > account the rising instability of all nations and especially the fast
> > rising instability of emmerging third world nations. It's not gonna
> > happen as fast or as pervasive as they predict.
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Marvin Dickens
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