[ale] OT: more info on where all the jobs are (going...)

ChangingLINKS.com x3 at ChangingLINKS.com
Sun Mar 16 02:17:38 EST 2003


I think that you are missing most of the spectrum.

Even if ALL of the IT jobs were to leave this country, I doubt "no one" would 
be able to afford software. Foriegn cars (in my experience) are usually 
better made - even to this day (ok limit this to Japan and Germany, and 
exclude many VWs and Audis).

I believe history showed that industry can leave places like PA and Detroit, 
and we can still have an economic boom in the future (late 90s). America 
seemed to go from agriculture - to industry - to IT (not a history major over 
here) and I believe that we can go "to infinity and beyond."

I don't believe that foreign policy (exporting labor, importing goods and HB1 
issues) are the leading cause of our economic swings.

Drew


On Saturday 15 March 2003 21:12, Mike Panetta wrote:
> On Sat, 2003-03-15 at 11:55, James P. Kinney III wrote:
> > On Sat, 2003-03-15 at 14:26, ChangingLINKS.com wrote:
> > > I value your opinion in this case. However, I don't think that
> > > corporations are short-sighted, blind or stupid.
> >
> > Corporations are neither short-sighted, blind or stupid. They are
> > single-minded. That single-minded purpose is bottom-line profit. That is
> > the only reason corporations exist. They will do anything to boost that
> > bottom line. As a rule, corporations have no morals. As morals have no
> > weight on the balance sheet, there is no reason to have morals. So they
> > don 't.
> >
> > If a corporation sees that they can produce their product for lees cost
> > that they are right, they will change production methods. There is no
> > thought to any factor other than the bottom line.
>
> Isn't the bottom line kinda pointless if there is no one left employed in
> a capacity that would allow them to buy the product for the prices its sold
> for?  I see (or rather hear of) all these companies outsourcing all the IT
> work, and yet I do not hear of any of them reducing prices.  How can anyone
> but other corporations afford to buy any of these software products if the
> price is not reduced?  Even if all IT workers in the US went out and found
> lower paying jobs tomorrow just to put food on the table, how could they
> afford to purchase any of the products that are being manufactured by these
> companies?
>
> How can corporations exist without employees?  Someone somewhere has to
> produce what the company sells.  There also must exist a consumer to buy
> the product. A consumer cannot consume without the resources to do so, so
> they must seek employment at a corporation.  If all corporations outsource
> all their employees, they will have lost their consumers as well...  Or am
> I missing something?
>
> I do not for see this as being anything but a disaster for the economy of
> the US. It seems that capitalism has failed...
>
> Mike
>
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