[ale] Mobo suggestions

[Matty]

I personally think that 64-bit CPUs are hyped more than they should be.
While there are a limited number of 64-bit instructions in the SPARC
instruction set, most applications are not compiled to use them. I think
the best benefits are the ability to access 2^44 bytes of memory on the
SPARC platform, and the ability to address 64-bit floating point
registers. I personally feel that the medias misrepresents what the
64-bit platforms provide. Am I missing something?

- Ryan

On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 19:44, Greg wrote:
> What advantages are you looking for in a 64 bit processor ?  I know that 64
> bit processors are better for heavy database's, CAD, and graphics.  Is there
> something else that they are faster for than these ?  I have a Sparc
> SunBlade and it was slow as crap running Solaris and Java (both made by Sun
> so you would think that they would do better than a simple 1 GHZ Athlon or
> even a 700 MHz Athlon) to the point that I just put OpenBSD on it and said
> to hell with it.  Did you look at the new Apple ?  or even a used Sparc ?
> (since the dot com bust the leasing folks are practically giving them away).
> 
> Just wondering.
> 
> Greg
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ale-admin at ale.org [mailto:ale-admin at ale.org]On Behalf Of James P.
> > Kinney III
> > Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 12:04 PM
> > To: ale at ale.org
> > Subject: Re: [ale] Mobo suggestions
> >
> >
> > VMWare is on the list to play with. I have v. 4.0 so it's recent.
> >
> > On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 11:55, Dow Hurst wrote:
> > > Thanks for the post!  Nice price!  Sorry about the lack of
> > apps.  You are definitely in new territory for the next few
> > months as developers catch up to the 64bit environment.  Does
> > VMware offer a route to run a 32bit virtual machine in a 64bit
> > environment?  You could run a virtual Linux with Openoffice if
> > that was available.
> > > Dow
> > >
> > >
> > > >>> jkinney at localnetsolutions.com 06/27/03 11:37 AM >>>
> > > On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 07:56, Dow Hurst wrote:
> > > > Now here is the question:  Are you willing to state publicly
> > what it cost?;-)
> > > > Dow
> > > >
> > > $2000 with the one CPU. The second is an additional $325. The RAM is in
> > > 4 512M sticks. They were out of the 1G ECC. That shaved >$150 off the
> > > final.
> > >
> > > There are several sticking points with the RH preview release. (I can't
> > > get my hands on either a Mandrake or a SUSE for the x86_64)
> > > 1. NO JAVA! (see below)
> > > 2. NO OPENOFFICE!
> > >
> > > I am looking at the source for OpenOffice now to see if it is compilable
> > > with out the JDK stuff. The ia64 JDK pukes when it sees the glibc. %*^@
> > > closed-source headaches!
> > >
> > > The prebuilt kernel is not very memory efficient. I'm looking into that
> > > as well. With a 2G pile of ram, and only 1G used, why is _any_ swap
> > > space being used?
> > >
> > > Nautilus is still as slow a molasses in winter (what a piece of crap.
> > > Pretty crap. But s  l  o  w  crap)
> > >
> > > Apache hauls ass, though! I have only done some prelim looking at
> > > PostgreSQL as I don't have my full setup on line yet, but it is
> > > noticeably faster.
> > > >
> > > > >>> jkinney at moat.localnetsolutions.com 06/26/03 23:53 PM >>>
> > >
> > > > Well, Monarch got some of my money today. I am now the busy,
> > drooling owner of a dual Opteron 240 system with 2G ram, Adaptec
> > SCSI 160 card, a Western Digital 120G 7200 rpm HD, and a new
> > liteon 54xATAPI CDRW all parked in a black full tower LianLi case.
> > > >
> > > > OK. So it only has the one Opteron CPU in right now. They ran
> > out. I bought the last one. They are a PIA to install, too. It
> > requires a frame support bracket that is attached to the
> > underside of the motherboard. So I'll be pulling the board out
> > next week to install the other CPU when it comes in.
> > > >
> > > > I'm running a preview copy of RH 9 for the opteron cpu. No
> > tweaking yet on the kernel. It runs pretty well. No
> > OpenOffice.org in this so I guess I'll be grabbing it tomorrow
> > since I pretty much live in front of it these days.
> > > >
> > > > Mmmm. 64bit PostgreSQL.
> > > >
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