[ale] How was the NW meeting last night?

[Jeff Hubbs]

One can save oneself some strife when trying to install Gentoo on
sub-swift hardware by doing a Stage 2 or Stage 3 install instead of the
compile-every-last-stitch Stage 1 install.

Now, where I'm having trouble is that none of my available boxes will
boot to a CD and, although I have an Initio-based SCSI card whose BIOS
will let me boot to a CD, none of the three loose SCSI CD drives I have
- two of which are burners - will boot to a CD-R or CD-RW.  This means
that I have to go through this very tedious procedure of installing some
distro or another from a prefab CD (Caldera eServer 2.3 in this case)
and using that to get the Gentoo CD contents onto a disk drive where I
can actually do something with them.

- Jeff

On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 10:09, Geoffrey wrote:
> Dow Hurst wrote:
> > Matthew Macumber gave a very good talk explaining Gentoo.  The benefits 
> > over other distros were pointed out plus the caveats.
> 
> Thanks to Matthew for stepping up and providing the presentation.  I was 
> unable to make the meeting as I was sitting in the rain at a delayed 
> swim meet for my daughter.
> 
> > I really like good hardware support in the kernel and also like having 
> > the latest software.  That has been my main reason for using SuSE. 
> > Secondary was having lot's of sysadmin taken care of by SuSE and not 
> > me.
> 
> Agreed.  That's one primary reason I didn't stick long with Gentoo.  It 
> took so bloody long to get installed to start with.  Then again, I was 
> installing on a p166... :(  Reminded my of my first Linux installs in 
> the mid 90's.
> 
> > Gentoo's offering of so many possible kernels, plus the absolute 
> > latest software and patches continually updated weekly is really 
> > appealing to me.
> 
> Agreed, and really sounds like a great solution for a firewall, except 
> for the fact, that most folks building firewalls on Linux make use of 
> low end hardware, again bringing up the problems with the install time 
> issues.
> 
> > I can probably enjoy working my way thru the sysadmin 
> > setup of the configuration files to tweak the system like I want it.  I 
> > think at heart I've wanted a Debian like system and Gentoo fits the 
> > bill.  I plan to build my system around Gentoo and post on the list how 
> > it goes.  SuSE 8.2 comes with OO 1.02 and to add OO 1.03.1 to it is a 
> > major pain unless you just ignore the OO 1.02 and install OO 1.03.1 in 
> > /usr/local.  I am tired of that!
> 
> I'd like to hear more about the OO issue.  Is this because SuSE doesn't 
> have an upgrade path to 1.03.1?  I would think you could remove 1.0.2 
> and then install 1.03.1?
> 
> > 
> > I will soon trade up from a SGI O2 to a Dell Linux workstation running 
> > protein modelling programs at work.  I'll be going from a MIPs R5000 at 
> > 200MHz to a Intel P4 at 2.08GHz.  My OpenGL speeds will increase by two 
> > orders of magnitude by moving from SGI CRM graphics to the Nvidia FX1000 
> > graphics.  So, that is about 7-9 years of graphics engine development 
> > time too, since the O2's graphics went on the market about 1996.
> 
> Now that sounds sweet. :)  When I get rich (chuckle), I would like to 
> devote a relatively recent piece of hardware to a true Gentoo effort.  I 
> wasn't really abel to do it justice on the p166.  Unfortunately, since 
> my top speed boxes are what I'm now trying to make a living on, I'm a 
> bit more particular about what I install.
> 
> > 
> > Just rambling but I did enjoy the meeting.  It was the shortest meeting 
> > we've had ending about 9:15pm and everyone was gone by 10pm!  I actually 
> > got home before midnight!
> 
> Sounds like a good meeting.  Again, I want to thank Matthew for his time 
> and effort.  I did not get home before midnight, since the rain did 
> eventually stop and they finished the whole swim meet...
> 
> -- 
> Until later: Geoffrey		esoteric at 3times25.net
> 
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