[ale] ping won't pong.........

[Jim Popovitch]

Well, that is a very difficult question as I use none of them. ;)  For the
record, I am a happy Comcast (not inexpensive) customer.  I do think that
BellSouth and Earthlink are both very competent companies that provide
quality service to the metro Atlanta area.  I'm sure there are many others
but those 2 I have dealt with in the past and I was happy with them.  AT&T
Worldnet (dial only) is another company that I currently use and I have been
happy with the quality of their dialup service.

-Jim P.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Courtney Thomas
> Sent: Sunday, 06 July, 2003 18:26
> To: ale at ale.org
> Subject: Re: [ale] ping won't pong.........
>
>
> Jim,
>
> I'm wasting time with this ISP. Do you know a local provider that is
> inexpensive and linux friendly ?
>
> Appreciatively,
> Courtney
>
>
>
> Jim Popovitch wrote:
>
> > Hi Courtney,
> >
> > If your ISP is not hosting the newsgroups (something that is
> very common)
> > then your ISP may also be blocking that type of traffic.  If your ISP is
> > hosting the newsgroup then an auth problem is most likely the case.
> > Depending on the ISP and their agreements with upstream news
> providers, your
> > ISP may only deal with authentication to their news servers when you are
> > posting, but your request to download news traffic could very well be
> > handled by your ISP's upstream news provider.  I hope that isn't too
> > confusing, to summarize: there may be two different
> authentications that are
> > occurring in your case.  The first is to some mega news download server
> > operated by an outsourced nntp service.  The second auth may be
> to your ISPs
> > local nntp server where your posts are processed.
> >
> > -Jim P.
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: ale-admin at ale.org [mailto:ale-admin at ale.org]On Behalf Of Courtney
> >>Thomas
> >>Sent: Sunday, 06 July, 2003 16:45
> >>To: ale at ale.org
> >>Subject: Re: [ale] ping won't pong.........
> >>
> >>
> >>Jim,
> >>
> >>I thank you for your additional insight.
> >>
> >>I agree that it appears to be on their end.
> >>
> >>A further problem to which you might also have insight [hopefully] is
> >>that....
> >>
> >>  I can surf newsgroups, but when I go to post to one, I get an
> >>authentication failure everytime [when I attempt to SEND the posting],
> >>no matter which group.
> >>
> >>This seems to me to also be on their end, in that, if authentication was
> >>broken on my end why am I being allowed access to newsgroups at all.
> >>
> >>Any ideas ?
> >>
> >>Gratefully,
> >>Courtney
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Jim Popovitch wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Well, It's possible (not not too likely) that your new ISP
> >>>
> >>blocks inbound
> >>
> >>>ICMP packets.  If you haven't added or changed any
> >>>
> >>ipchains/iptables entries
> >>
> >>>then the ISP must be the reason.   IMHO, practices like ICMP
> >>>
> >>blocking are
> >>
> >>>counter productive and rarely implemented outside of ISPs that don't
> >>>understand traffic engineering and proper network design.
> >>>
> >>>-Jim P.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: ale-admin at ale.org [mailto:ale-admin at ale.org]On Behalf
> Of Courtney
> >>>>Thomas
> >>>>Sent: Sunday, 06 July, 2003 15:30
> >>>>To: ale at ale.org
> >>>>Subject: Re: [ale] ping won't pong.........
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Thank you Jim.
> >>>>
> >>>>No, I cannot ping an IP address, except for the default indicate by
> >>>>netstat -rn. I also cannot ping the IPS DNS servers or other web
> >>>>servers. I can however ping the other boxes on the LAN.
> >>>>
> >>>>When I ping, say......www.apple.com.... it's IP address is immediately
> >>>>found and the modem lights blink in normal rhythmic fashion, but no
> >>>>onscreen pong sequence occurs, as formerly.
> >>>>
> >>>>I should add that I've recently changed ISPs.
> >>>>
> >>>>Appreciatively,
> >>>>Courtney
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Jim Popovitch wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Can you ping an IP address ('ping 12.0.1.28')?  If so, then you
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>don't have
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>DNS configured correctly (check your /etc/resolv.conf file).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>If not, check
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>your routing config ('netstat -rn') for a default route.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>-Jim P.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>From: ale-admin at ale.org [mailto:ale-admin at ale.org]On Behalf
> >>>>>>
> >>Of Courtney
> >>
> >>>>>>Thomas
> >>>>>>Sent: Sunday, 06 July, 2003 13:54
> >>>>>>To: ale at ale.org
> >>>>>>Subject: [ale] ping won't pong.........
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Even though I can surf the web and when I attempt to ping, e.g.
> >>>>>>www.apple.com....the dot quad address appears on screen, the
> >>>>>>
> >>repetitive
> >>
> >>>>>>scrolling pong response does NOT appear on screen, though I
> >>>>>>
> >>can see the
> >>
> >>>>>>modem lights blinking.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>What's wrong ?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thank you.
> >>>>>>--
> >>>>>>Courtney Thomas
> >>>>>>S/V Mutiny
> >>>>>>Lying Oriental, NC
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>S/V Mutiny
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> >>S/V Mutiny
> >>Lying Oriental, NC
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