[ale] OT: Response to the State of the Union

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Hitler! Hitler!

Ok. I _lose_ the discussion of the HB-1 policy (and I don't have an opinion). 
Or, at least let us use the same subject line for the thread until it runs 
out so we can filter it. 

Let's not rehash this again on the list shall we?

Drew


On Wednesday 29 January 2003 15:06, cfowler wrote:
> Is there anyone on this list that feels they have been wronged by the
> H1-B policy?
>
> On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 15:40, Benjamin Scherrey wrote:
> > Geez - you can't go begging people not to start a "wild thread" and then
> > go spewing crap like that on this list. We've already been through all
> > this and I've documented that most of your beliefs about what's wrong
> > with H1B is complete crap (and I'll wager to say I have more experience
> > with H1B and other worker immigration issues than anyone on this list and
> > from many different angles including being replaced by far cheaper and
> > less capable [er.. incapable?] foreign workers). Anyone who spends half
> > an hour actually investigating how it works knows it. Stop spewing your
> > protectionist, statist (, and verging on racist) nonsense on here if you
> > don't want to hear a contrary response to it.
> >
> > 	Take it somewhere else...
> >
> > 		Ben Scherrey
> >
> > PS: If you want a blatent equal-treatment issue how about the current
> > proposals to allow illegal foreigners to get state issued drivers
> > licenses whereas us citizens are now obligated to provide finger prints
> > and social security numbers in complete disregard to federal regulations
> > prohibiting SSNs as a form of identification?
> >
> > 1/29/2003 2:06:31 PM, cfowler <cfowler at outpostsentinel.com> wrote:
> > ><BEGGING>Do not run with this and start a wild thread</BEGGING>
> > >
> > >I wrote a very long letter to Bush in regards to his speech last night.
> > >I include a topic of H1-B.  I'm sending you my comments so you can
> > >coninue this by sending our people on Capitol Hill emails and snail
> > >mails.  I send him this long letter via email and followed up with a
> > >snail mailed copy.
> > >
> > >Here is what I wrote:
> > >H1B:
> > >
> > >Man is this a sore subject when it comes to the tech industry.  I don't
> > >have to elaborate but I hear many times a week when someone has been
> > >laid off and H1-B's still exist.  This could be fact or fiction but a
> > >question must be answered:
> > >
> > >"If *any* American IT workers are looking for jobs, Why do we allow
> > >H1-B's to stay in America?"
> > >
> > >It goes back to America needs to help Americans and that includes
> > >everyone.  You, CEO's, employees, and anyone else who dare calls them
> > >self American.  To me it is treason against your fellow American when
> > >you provide a job to a immigrant when there is an American standing in
> > >line for that job.  Would you not agree?
> > >
> > >Bottom line:  From today until further notice,  The H1-B program is
> > >suspended and all H1-B visas are revoked until unemployment levels go
> > >back down to an acceptable level of 0.0001%.  Makes since does it not.
> > >
> > >
> > >Please run with the ball and start the letters flowing out.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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