[ale] Lindows vs the semi-annual Windows suck-a-thon

Greg runman at speedfactory.net
Mon Feb 24 20:12:30 EST 2003


suse has no iso's  - true, but you can install with a floppy and either a
net install or an ftp install (the download of all of the programs used for
a personal ftp install is quite a while, since they either have a slow
server or are throttling the bandwith).

Greg

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-admin at ale.org [mailto:ale-admin at ale.org]On Behalf Of cfowler
> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 7:32 PM
> To: ale at ale.org
> Subject: RE: [ale] Lindows vs the semi-annual Windows suck-a-thon
>
>
>
> I've allways speculated on why the assembly of OS programs into a
> distrubution
> can be freely downloaded.  In the case of RedHat,  I firmly
> believe that anyone should be able to download any package that
> is OSS on its
> distribution free of charge.  However, the assembly of that
> software into what
> we call RH 8.0 should be paid for.
>
> I'm guilty like most of just downloading from the website and doing my own
> support.  I've only purchased one version of RH and I think that
> was 4.2 and I
> also bought the CDE development kit.
>
> So I think Lindows has the right to do what they do.  The ought
> to make the
> software like ssh, init, binutils, gcc, and etc. aavailable to those who
> want them but we should pay for the product called "Lindows" itself.
>
> I believe that RH may be smart and start selling its disti and
> not allowing
> it to be freely downloaded anymore.  I give them total support for this if
> they did it. I believe SuSe does it since I've not been able to find the
> latest and greates iso available for free.  RH will just wait
> till it gets a
> good solid userbase.  Like MS not going after people who pirate
> until they get
> a big userbase.
>
> Chris
>
>
> On 12/31/1969, "Greg" <runman at speedfactory.net> wrote:
>
> >Exactly.  I posted before my research.  Of course, CodeWeavers did leave
> >them since Lindows didn't want to share, and many members of the open
> source
> >community don't like the way Lindows operates - especially since 99% of
> >their system is from open source to begin with and they haven't
> played nice
> >with everyone else in the sandbox by sharing code.
> >
> >Greg
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: ale-admin at ale.org [mailto:ale-admin at ale.org]On Behalf Of
> Jason Day
> >> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 6:37 PM
> >> To: ale at ale.org
> >> Subject: Re: [ale] Lindows vs the semi-annual Windows suck-a-thon
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 05:15:46PM -0500, Greg wrote:
> >> > On the GPL issue, well, I *think* that Lindows, Inc interprets
> >> the GPL to
> >> > say that they have to provide the source code to USERS only,
> >> and in order to
> >> > be a user you need to pay at least $49.00 for the OS.  Their EULA
> (!??!)
> >> > says this also (note the  first sentence "source code" ???)
> >>
> >> This is allowed by the GPL.  I don't know the correct paragraph off the
> >> top of my head, but a quick search of the GPL FAQ should provide
> >> answers.
> >>
> >> On the other hand, while Lindows, Inc is well within their rights to
> >> only supply source code to users who have bought the binary, there is
> >> nothing to prevent a Lindows user from putting the source on a public
> >> FTP server, or distributing it in any other way.  If their EULA claims
> >> otherwise, then that would be a violation of the GPL.
> >>
> >> Jason
> >> --
> >> Jason Day                                       jasonday at
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> att dot net
> >>
> >> "Of course I'm paranoid, everyone is trying to kill me."
> >>     -- Weyoun-6, Star Trek: Deep Space 9
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