[ale] Inexpensive broadband recommendations

[cfowler]

My phone bill has been cheap.  My Long Distance, cheap.  And now I do
not have to rent phones from the phone company.  I can buy them at the
store.  But that may be an issue that is not concerned with the telco
and just with economics.




On Tue, 2003-02-18 at 16:05, Geoffrey wrote:
> matty91 at bellsouth.net wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, Geoffrey wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>John Wells wrote:
> >>
> >>>Grady Harris said:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Guess I'll check  how things stand again in a year.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Grady,
> >>>
> >>>I use BellSouth ADSL with linux.  It works perfectly.  I'd be happy to
> >>>help you set it up.
> >>
> >>John, I'd be curious as to why you would push Bellsouth?  They are the
> >>local monopoly, they really stick it to you if you want any extras, like
> >>static ip, they use pppoe.
> >>
> >>We need to support the other alternatives in order to create a
> >>competitive market.  Right now, the FCC is about to make changes to the
> >>current laws that require the rbocs to sell their services to other
> >>companies for local service.  This will impact dsl services as well.  If
> > 
> > 
> > The UNE proposals will level the playing field for all companies.
> 
> How so?
> 
> > In
> > the end, you will most likely see cheaper and better services from
> > the CLECs and ILECs in the telecommunciations sector. Since CLECs can
> > access the network elements of all the RBOCs today, there is not a
> > monopoly per sae. The CLECs get charged less than what it costs an
> > ILEC to run the infrastructure. There is a terrific book on this topic. If
> > your interested in the title, feel free to email me. *IMHO* Deregulation
> > is a good thing for all.
> 
> The problem with the current direction of the FCC is to stop UNE.  This 
> means that the rbocs start jacking up the cost they charge folks to 
> enter their markets, such as local phone service, which includes dsl. 
> So how is it that we will see more competition if the current monopolies 
> (such as BellSouth) weed out everyone else out of their market?
> 
> I'm all for competition as well, but the playing fields must be level. 
> The rbocs argument is they can't expand their systems when permitting 
> other companies into their markets at 'under cost.'  This is utter 
> bullshit.  So do the mindsprings, speedfactories and others go out and 
> duplicate the infrastructure that already exists?  I don't think so. 
> AT&T was forced to do the under cost thing, and still does for long 
> distance.  So, let's see.  Who can I get my long distance service with? 
>   AT&T, Bellsouth, verison, mci, .....  How about that local service? 
> Hmmm, Bellsouth, AT&T in spotty areas....
> 
> What's good for the goose is good for the gander.  Bellsouth and the 
> other rbocs need to suck it up and permit others use their services at a 
> reasonable price until the playing field is level.
> 
> So how much is your long distance bill in comparison to what it was 10 
> years ago?  How about your local phone bill?  Now tell me where the 
> level playing field is?
> 
> -- 
> Until later: Geoffrey		esoteric at 3times25.net
> 
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