[ale] Bobness and Jonathanness (and some PHP)

[cfowler]

I would say to skip the Platform dependent security books and focus on
security in general.  After you master the theories and understand fully
what is going on you may want to get info in regards to locking down
specific systems.

>From my firewall software (firewall on a disk), I only use Linux to
provide me with 2 things

1) A Kernel for POSIX and HW support
2) iptables for a filtering solution and an interface to the
   filters.

#2 is what you should really learn if you are using Linux.  But it is
linux specific.  Many people here know how complex those command line
options for the kernel interface can be.



On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 06:59, Geoffrey wrote:
> J.M. Taylor wrote:
> > So how does one pursue Bob- or Jonathanness? :)
> > 
> > I've been a security focused admin and coder for a couple of
> > years...what's the next level?  Certification?  Education?  Annyoing
> > questions lobbed at Bob and Jonathan for the rest of my career? ;)
> 
> That is a good question. How about some recommendations from Bob and 
> Jonathan?
> 
> Do we spend hours watching the output of tcpdump?  I've got a couple of 
> books I've used for study and research.  Would like feedback on them as 
> well, (from anyone..):
> 
> Real World Linux Security (1st and 2nd editions)
> 	- Bob Toxen, Prentice Hall :)
> Maximum Linux Security - Anonymous, Sams
> White Hat Security Arsenal - Rubin, Addison-Wesley
> Building Internet Firewalls - (Zwicky, et al) O'Reilly
> Firewalls and Internet Security, Cheswick, Bellovin, Addison-Wesley (old 
> by (1994) 'internet time standards' but quite interesting)
> Linux Firewalls )1st and 2nd editions) - Ziegler, New Riders
> 
> I will say this, Bob's book is the most comprehensive book on 
> system/network protection of any I've seen.  It actually covers every 
> subject found in the other books I've noted in some way or another.
> 
> Point is, if you can't afford but one book, Bob's is the one to get.
> 
> (no I don't get anything from Bob for those statements, although I've 
> enjoyed the pizza he's provided at the ALE NW meetings... :) )
> 
> -- 
> Until later: Geoffrey		esoteric at 3times25.net
> 
> The latest, most widespread virus?  Microsoft end user agreement.
> Think about it...
> 
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