[ale] Computers for sale with Linux installed.

miguel miguelq at bellsouth.net
Tue Feb 4 22:39:18 EST 2003


thanks for email...

-miguel

Jeff Hubbs wrote:

>It's Coyote - www.coyotelinux.com.
>
>Boots from a floppy, does very little (a good thing).
>
>- Jeff
>
>On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 00:05, miguel wrote:
>
>>>and one is my firewall and has no HDD running)
>>>
>>are you  runnig a firewall distro like ipcop or smoothwall?
>>
>>cheers
>>-miguel
>>
>>
>>
>>Jeff Hubbs wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 10:41, Joe wrote:
>>>
>>>>Jeff Hubbs <hbbs at attbi.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>>But if you do that, bring along a tomsrtbt floppy to check for the buggy
>>>>>CMD640 and RZ1000 IDE controller chips in the Pentium classics.  About a
>>>>>third of all machines made in that era have them and are to be avoided. 
>>>>>
>>>>Linux has had workarounds for those problems since they were detected,
>>>>and they're enabled by default in (AFAIK) all kernels that support
>>>>them. So unless you're looking for pure speed (and if you're buying
>>>>a 5-year-old machine, you're not :-), they should be OK.
>>>>
>>>Not necessarily.  IIRC, many of the machines with the bad IDE
>>>controllers had the additional issue of them simply being wired up
>>>incorrectly on the motherboard.  And, inasmuch as there is a conf0g-time
>>>kernel option for buggy CMD640 support, the RZ1000 issue was a bit
>>>thornier.  In any case, the buggy controllers are a bit of a minefield
>>>for any multitasking OS.  All I'm saying is, if you can easily avoid a
>>>bad one for a good one, do so, but if you get a bad one (I have two,
>>>BTW, and one is my firewall and has no HDD running), you might consider
>>>working around the problem by somehow not relying on that controller.
>>>
>>>What's bad is that Micron, which back in the day was one of the most
>>>highly thought-of PC manufacturers (of those who made their own mobos),
>>>made LOTS of machines with the buggy controllers.
>>>
>>>- Jeff
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