[ale] recovering an ext3 drive

[Adrin]

I have to agree with Bob.  I have used windows for years, but always wanted to use
Unix/Linux.  There a great advantages.

One that I cam across on Friday was nice.  I was able to swap out a failing hard drive.
Use a crash recovery disk and do a complete restore.  All in less than 4 hours.  Every
backup package I have seen for a windows system doesn't have this. You have to reinstall
windows and then the backup software and then do a restore. Ewwwwwwww

Adrin


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-admin at ale.org [mailto:ale-admin at ale.org]On Behalf Of Bob Toxen
> Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 3:44 PM
> To: ale at ale.org
> Subject: Re: [ale] recovering an ext3 drive
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 09:39:22AM -0500, Michael D. Hirsch wrote:
> ...
> > I think UNIX is a classic example of this.  It is incredibly powerful and
> > robust, but apparently very difficult for most people to understand.  Why
> > they don't understand it is a mystery to me, too, but I'm one of those
> > weird software developers who is part of the problem in the first place.
>
> I beg to differ.  I've had no problem taking secretaries who had no
> computer experience at all and taught them how to log on to UNIX, use
> vi and nroff to write, edit, print, and mail documents.  They seemed to
> experience far less frustration and were more productive than the many
> people who use Winbloz now.  The situation now is that EVERYONE (except
> me) knows Winbloz so of course UNIX/Linux will be "harder to learn" because
> they don't alreay know it.
>
> The rumor that UNIX/Linux is harder than DOS/Winbloz is M$ FOD.  Please
> don't further it.
> ...
> > Any design which ignores the human element will lose the popularity contest
> > to one that doesn't.  So, as a user, given two computers one of which does
> > offer undelete and the other which doesn't, of course I'll choose the
> > former.  I'll even think that the other one sucks.
>
> > Given two chainsaws, one of which will cut off my toes if I'm not careful,
> > and the other with Toe-Cutoff-Prevention (TM), which one would you pick?
>
> The "cut off my toes one" because that vendor has better advertising and
> very aggressive salesmen.  The problem is not in Engineering, it is in
> Sales & Marketing.  It also was in a very long boom economy that allowed
> inefficient companies (customers) to survive despite many stupid decisions
> (like M$).
>
> The current depression will weed out some of these and pressure companies
> to switch the less expensive Linux instead of upgrading Windows with its
> ever more expensive and restrictive licensing.
>
> > I'm not going to continue.  I don't think either of us could say anything
> > we haven't already said.  Please, read the book.
>
> > Here's the Amazon link for it.
> >
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0672316498/qid=1043159246/sr=8-1/r
ef=sr_8_1/104-0034927-8779166?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

> --Michael
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