[ale] OT: Wireless Questions

[Christopher Fowler]

Now that is cool.  I guess the key is barren land.  Maybe the
horn will work good at .5 miles.


On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 01:43:31PM -0400, Hogg, Russell E wrote:
> 
>    [1]http://www.adversarialsciencelab.net/newindex.html
> 
>    Thats  their  site.   If  you  scour the web a little you can find far
>    better articles about the shootout in other places though.
> 
>    I know techTV has an article somewhere.
> 
>    Russ
> 
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>    ctcrreho at opm.gov
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>    -----Original Message-----
>    From: Christopher Fowler [[2]mailto:cfowler at outpostsentinel.com]
>    Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 1:38 PM
>    To: ale at ale.org
>    Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Wireless Questions
> 
>    Do you have a direclt link to that ant.   Their flash intro is
>    not allowing me to view their site. I'm guessig it is flash.  All
>    I  see is a big white square with a black background.  Of course I run
>    Linux too.
> 
>    On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 01:30:58PM -0400, Hogg, Russell E wrote:
>    >
>    >     FWIW   trees are really nasty dealing with anything 2.4G because
>    that's
>    >    the  resonating  frequency  of  water.   Your  microwave works on
>    this
>    >    principle.
>    >
>    >     If   linksys   says  3  miles  then  expect  2/3  of that in the
>    Georgia
>    >     humidity   and line of sight.  I will point out that I've gotten
>    half a
>    >    mile  out of a plain old omni directional antenna that was placed
>    high
>    >    enough up though.
>    >
>    >     Linksys   makes   a   consumer  level  amp that you might try to
>    although I
>    >    think I heard that it sucked.
>    >
>    >     Maybe   consider   building  a  4  dollar  "can-tenna"  yourself
>    before
>    >    investing  in  high  dollar  hardware.  If you're really serious,
>    some
>    >     folks  out  at  either  black  hat or defcon built a horn out of
>    a 100
>    >    worth  of  stuff  at home depot and got 35 miles out of the thing
>    a .8
>    >    watts.
>    >
>    >    Their site here: [1][3]http://www.adversarialsciencelab.net
>    >
>    >    I  betcha  that's  less  than  you paid for that YAGI.  And yes a
>    good
>    >    antenna at both ends is definitely an aid.
>    >
>    >    Seems there are quite a few sharp wireless people on the list.
>    >    Those are just
>    >    My 2 cents
>    >
>    >    Russ
>    >
>    >    ____________________________________________
>    >    ctcrreho at opm.gov
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>    >    -----Original Message-----
>    >    From: Tim LaCroix [[2][4]mailto:cheese4all at yahoo.com]
>    >    Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 1:20 PM
>    >    To: ale at ale.org
>    >    Subject: [ale] OT: Wireless Questions
>    >
>    >    Hey all, I ran into something I can't fix, thought
>    >    someone here may know.
>    >
>    >    I got a D-Link 614+ and a Yagi D-Link ANT24-1801 and I
>    >    am trying to go a half mile to a computer sitting with
>    >    a Belkin 802.11b USB nic. I called up D-Link and they
>    >    just said that a professional wireless installer must
>    >    install it. I asked if there were any in Savannah, he
>    >    couldn't say. But regardless, I am merely attempting
>    >    to go 1/2 mile through trees, houses and people to
>    >    reach a nic sitting in an office. The thing has a 15
>    >    degree beam. The Yagi boasts a 3 mile range, but
>    >    looking at some cisco texts on their equivalent it
>    >    seems that 2 concrete walls are enough to stop the
>    >    connection. Is it wise to get another antenna or a nic
>    >    with an antenna like the DWL-AG520 for the recieving
>    >    end? Or is the only option to site this thing out with
>    >    a laser going 3 stories up and aiming it to be within
>    >    inches. Any assistance or advice would be great.
>    >
>    >    Thanks.
>    >    Tim LaCroix
>    >    CCNA (general all around "fix the computer thing" guy)
>    >
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