[ale] OT: Wireless Questions

Thu Aug 28 13:43:31 EDT 2003

http://www.adversarialsciencelab.net/newindex.html

Thats their site.Â  If you scour the web a little you can find far better articles about the shootout in other places though.

I know techTV has an article somewhere.

Russ

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-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Fowler [mailto:cfowler at outpostsentinel.com] 
To: ale at ale.org
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 1:38 PM
To: ale at ale.org
Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Wireless Questions

Do you have a direclt link to that ant.Â Â  Their flash intro is
not allowing me to view their site. I'm guessig it is flash.Â  All
I see is a big white square with a black background.Â  Of course I run Linux too.

On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 01:30:58PM -0400, Hogg, Russell E wrote:
> 
>Â Â Â  FWIWÂ  trees are really nasty dealing with anything 2.4G because that's
>Â Â Â  theÂ  resonatingÂ  frequencyÂ  ofÂ  water.Â Â  YourÂ  microwave works on this
>Â Â Â  principle.
> 
>Â Â Â  IfÂ  linksysÂ  saysÂ  3Â  milesÂ  thenÂ  expectÂ  2/3Â  of that in the Georgia
>Â Â Â  humidityÂ  and line of sight.Â  I will point out that I've gotten half a
>Â Â Â  mileÂ  out of a plain old omni directional antenna that was placed high
>Â Â Â  enough up though.
> 
>Â Â Â  LinksysÂ  makesÂ  aÂ  consumer level amp that you might try to although I
>Â Â Â  think I heard that it sucked.
> 
>Â Â Â  MaybeÂ  considerÂ  buildingÂ  aÂ  4Â  dollarÂ  "can-tenna"Â  yourselfÂ  before
>Â Â Â  investingÂ  inÂ  highÂ  dollarÂ  hardware.Â  If you're really serious, some
>Â Â Â  folksÂ  outÂ  atÂ  eitherÂ  blackÂ  hat or defcon built a horn out of a 100
>Â Â Â  worthÂ  ofÂ  stuffÂ  at home depot and got 35 miles out of the thing a .8
>Â Â Â  watts.
> 
>Â Â Â  Their site here: [1]http://www.adversarialsciencelab.net
> 
>Â Â Â  IÂ  betchaÂ  that'sÂ  lessÂ  thanÂ  you paid for that YAGI.Â  And yes a good
>Â Â Â  antenna at both ends is definitely an aid.
> 
>Â Â Â  Seems there are quite a few sharp wireless people on the list.
>Â Â Â  Those are just
>Â Â Â  My 2 cents
> 
>Â Â Â  Russ
> 
>Â Â Â  ____________________________________________
>Â Â Â  ctcrreho at opm.gov
> 
>Â Â Â  -----Original Message-----
>Â Â Â  From: Tim LaCroix [[2]mailto:cheese4all at yahoo.com]
>Â Â Â  Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 1:20 PM
>Â Â Â  To: ale at ale.org
>Â Â Â  Subject: [ale] OT: Wireless Questions
> 
>Â Â Â  Hey all, I ran into something I can't fix, thought
>Â Â Â  someone here may know.
> 
>Â Â Â  I got a D-Link 614+ and a Yagi D-Link ANT24-1801 and I
>Â Â Â  am trying to go a half mile to a computer sitting with
>Â Â Â  a Belkin 802.11b USB nic. I called up D-Link and they
>Â Â Â  just said that a professional wireless installer must
>Â Â Â  install it. I asked if there were any in Savannah, he
>Â Â Â  couldn't say. But regardless, I am merely attempting
>Â Â Â  to go 1/2 mile through trees, houses and people to
>Â Â Â  reach a nic sitting in an office. The thing has a 15
>Â Â Â  degree beam. The Yagi boasts a 3 mile range, but
>Â Â Â  looking at some cisco texts on their equivalent it
>Â Â Â  seems that 2 concrete walls are enough to stop the
>Â Â Â  connection. Is it wise to get another antenna or a nic
>Â Â Â  with an antenna like the DWL-AG520 for the recieving
>Â Â Â  end? Or is the only option to site this thing out with
>Â Â Â  a laser going 3 stories up and aiming it to be within
>Â Â Â  inches. Any assistance or advice would be great.
> 
>Â Â Â  Thanks.
>Â Â Â  Tim LaCroix
>Â Â Â  CCNA (general all around "fix the computer thing" guy)
> 
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