[ale] Re: More for the ALS record

[Mark Angeli]

That sounds like a cool plan. Could also offer speakers (some of the more
popular topics from the past couple of years), contact some of the distros
see if they would like to have any representation or send any promotional
stuff as well.

I'm planning (God and my Wife willing) to attend next weeks ALE-NW meeting.
I'd be up for talking about this with anyone interested in helping put it
together....

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: ale-admin at ale.org [mailto:ale-admin at ale.org]On Behalf Of Robert L.
To: ale at ale.org
Harris
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:29 AM
To: ale at ale.org
Subject: Re: [ale] Re: More for the ALS record





An install fest along with different Demos running on tables.  Things
like the knoppix ported security tool: http://www.localareasecurity.com/
and other "recovery/diagnostics" tools along with different distro's,
desktops, etc.



Thus spake Mark Angeli (webmaster at tinyminds.org):

> I understand the problem of size becoming too much, and I can also see why
> the ALS had to incorporate. I did note that originally, it was the Atlanta
> Linux Expo and it was held one saturday at Ga Tech.
>
> why couldn't we start out with something like this again? Most of the
> speakers at the 1997 expo were (as noted on the site) members of the ALE.
It
> shouldn't be too hard to coordinate something like this... perhaps make it
> an InstallFest on Steroids.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-admin at ale.org [mailto:ale-admin at ale.org]On Behalf Of
> tfreeman at intel.digichem.net
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:19 AM
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> Subject: [ale] Re: More for the ALS record
>
>
> On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Marc Torres wrote:
>
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 05:01:22PM -0400, tfreeman at intel.digichem.net
> wrote:
> > > IIRC, ALS grew to a size where the volunteers couldn't handle the job
> and
> > > pay their bills, much less have a life.
> >
> > This is more or less true.  Some things scale as they are reproduced
> > year to year and become easier- but others do not.  Backoffice work
> > like contracts, receipts and accounts receivable just get bigger.
> >
> > On the flip side of the scale question, it was also 5 years of effort
> > and many just needed to move on to other things in their lives.
> >
> > > Hence selling out to a larger organization with professional staff.
> > > Didn't work.
> >
> > Ok... Flat out... ENOUGH of the Weekly World News version of ALS info.
> > I will not stand for the slander of hardworking people.
>
> Marc - my deepest appologies. I meant no disrespect/slander of hardworking
> volunteers, nor disrespect of the decision itself, nor disrespect to the
> staff of USENIX. I was attempting to be very brief in summary, and managed
> to screw it up instead.
>
> My intention was (and hopefully it comes out better this time) to indicate
> that the transition from volunteer to full-time staff was both rational,
> and regretably less than successful. Admittedly I did not know enough of
> the details to fill in elements of the transition.
>
> Again, I appologise for giving offense when I know the level of dedication
> involved in putting on such a convention.
>
> <<snip well stated history>>
>
> >
> > > It is possible to put on a major show with almost exclusively
volunteer
> > > labor, check out PitCon next time it comes to Atlanta for an example.
> >
> > Yup it is, we did it in 1997-1999 :-)
>
> And did a wonderful job that I was foolish enough to not be able to
> attend.
>
> <<snip>>
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