[ale] [OT] How come I can't purchase this domain?

[Mike Lockhart]

I hate to sound like a killjoy, but when it comes to domains, the
consumer is at the will of the registrars.  If a domain has NOT been
released, there is absolutely nothing you can do until it is released.  
Secondly, the while "back-order" system that some registrars are using
is really just a scam to get more $$$ from unwitting consumers.  If you
backorder a domain, most registrars charge you anywhere from $2-$10 to
get on the backorder list, and that money is non-refundable.  So if 300
people back-order a domain, well, you do the math.  Point being, don't
bother back-ordering a domain.

My recommendation is to use DirectNIC for your domain registrations. 
Not because they're the cheapest, but because they have the most safety
nets setup for their customers and are damn honest.  I should know, i
used to work there. ;)  These guys will go head to head with VeriSuck
when VeriSuck tries to steal a domain/customer. (very common occurance)

Just my $0.02

- mike

On Sun, 2003-04-06 at 23:54, Christopher Bergeron wrote:
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> Well, I don't currently own the domain.  The whole domain "scene" ticks 
> me off so much because the consumer continually gets shafted in this 
> arena.  I "Backordered" a domain last year.  It expired.  Three months 
> later someone else got the domain, even though I "backordered" it 
> (backordering is having a registrar buy the domain via proxy for you 
> when it comes available).
> 
> Should I call the current registrar (not domain owner) and see if 
> they'll sell it to me?  I'm just afraid that they'll jack the price up 
> magnitudinally if I _request_ it; whereas if it goes on the "market" I 
> can pick it up for $8.95.
> 
> Is there any "trick of the trade" that I can use to force the current 
> registar to release it?  Should I call Go-Daddy (my preferred registar) 
> and tell them that it's expired and that I want to buy it, but can't 
> because the _other_ registrar hasn't released it?
> 
> What to do?
> 
> - -CB
> 
> 
> 
> Chris Fowler wrote:
> 
> |I seen Verisign do this many times.  They'll keep the record so that you
> |have to go back to them to reregister.  Verisign is $35/year.  There are
> |so many registrars cheaper than that, they simply do not release the
> |record.
> |
> |Last year I was forced to go back through Verisign to reregister my
> |fathers domain.  I was waiting for it to be released so I could go to
> |hostsave, but it was never released.
> |
> |Chris
> |
> |On Sun, 2003-04-06 at 23:26, Christopher Bergeron wrote:
> |
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> |>The whois record for a domain that I'd like reads:
> |>
> |>|
> |>| Record last updated on 2000-08-01 07:31:11.717
> |>| Record created on 2000-08-01 07:29:39.327
> |>| Record expires on 2002-08-01 07:29:39.390
> |>|
> |>| Domain servers in listed order:
> |>|    ns2.sisna.com   209.210.176.9
> |>|    ns1.sisna.com   209.210.176.8
> |>|
> |>| Registration Service Provider: Sisna, Inc
> |>
> |>
> |>So, I'm thinking it's some obscure registrar that hasn't released the
> |>record... Is this possible?  Can I call my domain registrar and have
> |>them "take" this domain if it's expired?
> |>
> |>I don't know what to do...   I'm temped to call the registrar and ask
> |>about it, but then they'll know that I want the domain and they could
> |>"squat" it.
> |>
> |>Anyone have any insight?
> |>
> |>- -CB
> |>
> |>
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