[ale] [OT] Interesting Take on MS Programming Tools

[Dennany, Jerome {D177~Roswell}]

>The "correct" answer was "deploy x M$ servers", 
>regardless of technical merit. 

Thanks for the response.  I don't really share your disdain for all that is MS, but I do find the above attitudes *very* annoying, especially in an academic environment.  I know that people like to "go with what they know", but you can still learn from others.  IMHO, the *best* teachers learn from their students.  If the professor was pro-microsoft because that's what he knows, it doesn't mean that he shouldn't entertain the alternate problem solutions.

However, I think that this really addresses a fundamental problem with undergraduate education.  You're not really there to learn.  You are there fulfill requirements to get a diploma.  Punch your ticket and move along the diploma mill.  (Hey, I don't like it, but it is a fact).

But, I digress.

Many people here seem to take me as a Microsoft Apologist.  I'm not - I'm a "best tool for the job" kinda guy.  I've used Linux to great advantage on a couple of internal projects where I work.  There were places where the work could be done better, faster, and cheaper than using anything else.  I also have no aversion to using Microsoft products, and I really, really enjoy programming in C#.  In fact, it is the first time in a long time that I've enjoyed programming again.

Respectfully,

Jerry Dennany




-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Glass [mailto:jonathan.glass at ibb.gatech.edu]
To: ale at ale.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 1:00 PM
To: ale at ale.org
Subject: RE: [ale] [OT] Interesting Take on MS Programming Tools


Sorry for the delay...was at lunch.

I don't have a problem with any development environment.  I can code in
C++ and VB equally, so that's not a concern.  I always look at the
project, then determine what will be the best solution.

I dislike M$ just on principle, and as such their products.  I try to
avoid using them any more than I need to, except for what I need to
learn for my job.

What really annoyed me was this professor (at Macon State College, BTW)
so happily preaching the M$ gospel.  This is not an isolated incident at
MSC.  For most of the courses taught, they have a 100% M$ push.  In one
class, the professor asked about a hypothetical network deployment.  The
"correct" answer was "deploy x M$ servers", regardless of technical
merit.  Thus, I got many of his projects "wrong" by suggesting Linux,
until I figured out his bent and did what he wanted.

This doesn't really affect the majority of the people on the list, but I
figured the list as a whole wouldn't mind letting me vent...at the least
they would ignore my thread.

Thanks to all

Jonathan

On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 11:07, Dennany, Jerome {D177~Roswell} wrote:
> I understand your point, and don't disagree with it, though it didn't answer my question.
> 
> I was wondering about Jonathan's response, since he's the one that brought the subject up, though.
> 
> Jerry Dennany
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geoffrey [mailto:esoteric at 3times25.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:57 AM
> To: ale at ale.org
> Subject: Re: [ale] [OT] Interesting Take on MS Programming Tools
> 
> 
> Dennany, Jerome {D177~Roswell} wrote:
>  > Besides the company that manufactures VS.NET, could you tell me what
>  > you actually dislike about the tool itself?
> 
> That's enough reason not to use the product.  I don't care how good it 
> may be, every and all efforts by Microsoft are in the end, directed at 
> expanding their illegal monopoly.  This is the reason you should not use 
> their products.
> 
> You may well like this tool now, but in one way or another it's going to 
> lock you into their world.  Give me a call in a couple of years and tell 
> me I'm wrong.
> 
> -- 
> Until later: Geoffrey		esoteric at 3times25.net
> 
> I didn't have to buy my radio from a specific company to listen
> to FM, why doesn't that apply to the Internet (anymore...)?
> 
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