[ale] PPP/SSH VPN dies randomly

James P. Kinney III jkinney at localnetsolutions.com
Mon Mar 4 22:29:49 EST 2002


I don't know about the connections others have, but mine doesn't burp.
It completely spews entire digestive tracks all over a process and
"feels much better, thank you". 

I'm not so sure that the ppp protocol was such a grand idea.

On Mon, 2002-03-04 at 22:10, Geoffrey wrote:
> 
> 
> James P. Kinney III wrote:
> 
> > I have never kept a VPN up for days on end. There has always been some
> > network glitch outside my control that has required a reconnect. 
> 
> I've been told that mine has an 8 hour timeout, although I'm on 14h 28m 
> right now.  I never leave mine up even overnight, no reason to.
> 
> I agree though, regarding the uptime expectations.  All you have to have 
> is a good burp in your internet connection and your tunnel's gone.
> 
> > On Mon, 2002-03-04 at 21:43, Christopher Bergeron wrote:
> > 
> >>And this is acceptable?  Forgive me for being naive, but that would be like
> >>using an Operating System that crashed almost daily and wrote it off as, "I
> >>guess that's just how it has to be".  By definition there has to be a
> >>"reason" for it and therefore, a solution.
> >>
> >>Have you confronted your VPN vendor about it (please say it wasn't Cisco)?
> >>If so, what was their response?
> >>
> >>I'm currently adding a VPN watchdog to my crontab, but even 1 minute of
> >>downtime per month is a major malfunction.  Someone has to have some clues
> >>about this.  I'm not using IPsec, I'm using SSH over PPP.  I understand that
> >>encryption can be finicky, but I have a hard time blaming SSH.  I'm expected
> >>to produce 99.99999% availability and I can't accept anything less.  Call me
> >>a spoiled Linux user for assuming availability, if you must...
> >>
> >>:)
> >>
> >>Anyone have any leads or even starting points for debugging this?
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>CB
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: Geoffrey [mailto:esoteric at 3times25.net]
> >>>Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 7:53 PM
> >>>To: Christopher Bergeron
> >>>Cc: Ale
> >>>Subject: Re: [ale] PPP/SSH VPN dies randomly
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>No real help, except to say that this happens to my (commercial) vpn
> >>>connectivity on occasion.  It presents an error message something to the
> >>>effect of: "heartbeat missed, assuming tunnel is down."  This is an
> >>>ipsec vpn.
> >>>
> >>>Christopher Bergeron wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Does anyone have any idea why my VPN connection dies
> >>>>
> >>>periodically?  It seems
> >>>
> >>>>to be okay for a few days and then one of the procees goes
> >>>>
> >>>defunct and the
> >>>
> >>>>connection goes down.  I'm tunneling ssh over ppp over a T1
> >>>>
> >>>connection to
> >>>
> >>>>the 'net on both sides.
> >>>>
> >>>>Any clues are greatly appreciated...
> >>>>-CB
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>Until later: Geoffrey		esoteric at 3times25.net
> >>>
> >>>I didn't have to buy my radio from a specific company to listen
> >>>to FM, why doesn't that apply to the Internet (anymore...)?
> >>>
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> 
> -- 
> Until later: Geoffrey		esoteric at 3times25.net
> 
> I didn't have to buy my radio from a specific company to listen
> to FM, why doesn't that apply to the Internet (anymore...)?
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