[ale] OT: The Amazing WEB

[hirsch at zapmedia.com]

Zyman, Andy writes:
 > well, then whole thread doesn't make any sense for _me_ .
 > Sorry. I don't understand why to complain if U don't want to change smth. 
 > I think I'm missing smth...

I want change, but I don't want to make a law that says change is
required.  Surely those are compatible.  

--Michael

 > 
 > > -----Original Message-----
 > > From: hirsch at zapmedia.com [mailto:hirsch at zapmedia.com]
 > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:37 PM
 > > To: Zyman, Andy
 > > Cc: 'ale at ale.org'
 > > Subject: RE: [ale] OT: The Amazing WEB
 > > 
 > > 
 > > Zyman, Andy writes:
 > > 
 > >  > If U ( i mean person ) don't like porn/Maxim/TV/car - 
 > > don't use it, don't go
 > >  > out and spend Your money on it.
 > >  > Porn industry is doing money on CUSTOMERS. They don't 
 > > "taxed" You as
 > >  > government do - U want it - u paying them. Bum of inet 
 > > porn - people simply
 > >  > want to have porn at their homes.
 > >  > So before crying "Bad AT&T.. etc, " check out Your own 
 > > tapes/DVDs and spend
 > >  > more time with Your children.
 > >  > Don't You understand that banning -is the best they to 
 > > make these people (
 > >  > porn ind ) rich ? 
 > > 
 > > Isn't that what we are talking about?  Who said anything about banning
 > > anyone from doing anything?
 > > 
 > > If I think something is bad, I am absolutely within my rights to
 > > complain about it.  If I think AT&T is doing something bad, then I
 > > should complain, especially if I am a customer, employee, community
 > > member or stockholder.  In a case like AT&T, I think they are big
 > > enough that even general citizens should speak up as we are all part
 > > of their community, like it or not.
 > > 
 > > But that is a far cry from saying that I think AT&T should be banned,
 > > fined, taxed, or otherwise forced to behave in a particular manner.
 > > There is a world of difference between "I think AT&T should do this"
 > > and "I think AT&T should be forced to do this".
 > > 
 > > --Michael
 > > 
 > >  > 
 > >  > Andy
 > >  > 
 > >  > 
 > >  > 
 > >  > > -----Original Message-----
 > >  > > From: Kevin Krumwiede [mailto:krum at smyrnacable.net]
 > >  > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 12:35 PM
 > >  > > To: Jim Popovitch; ale at ale.org
 > >  > > Subject: RE: [ale] OT: The Amazing WEB
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Yes it could -- not because it's viewed on their products, 
 > >  > > but because these
 > >  > > companies, too, have their fingers in such a wide range of 
 > >  > > industries that
 > >  > > it's almost impossible to avoid supporting them if you 
 > > don't want to.
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Krum
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > > -----Original Message-----
 > >  > > > From: Jim Popovitch [mailto:jimpop at rocketship.com]
 > >  > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 12:29 PM
 > >  > > > To: Irv Mullins; ale at ale.org
 > >  > > > Subject: RE: [ale] OT: The Amazing WEB
 > >  > > >
 > >  > > >
 > >  > > > Couldn't the same things be said of RCA, Magnavox, Panasonic,
 > >  > > > etc... For it
 > >  > > > is on their products that the viewing happens.  Identifying 
 > >  > > motives, and
 > >  > > > keeping proper perspective, is key to arguments such as these.
 > >  > > >
 > >  > > > -Jim P.
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > 
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