[ale] Ale Inc.? (was RE: [ale] surviving sans work

Christopher Bergeron christopher at bergeron.com
Mon Feb 4 18:52:01 EST 2002 


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class=212565023-04022002>Absolutely, I'm going to post it to sourceforge as soon 
as I figure CVS out.  
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class=212565023-04022002>:)  It will be sometime later this week.  If 
you want to see it sooner, email me OL and I'll send you the 
.tgz
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class=212565023-04022002> -----Original Message-----From: 
Mark E. Schill [mailto:Mark.Schill at cmschill.net]Sent: Monday, 
February 04, 2002 1:48 PMTo: Christopher BergeronSubject: 
Re: [ale] Ale Inc.? (was RE: [ale] surviving sans 
work
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid">Could 
  I take a look at your source code??MarkChristopher 
  Bergeron wrote:
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid:IOEKLKGAEODGGPOJGNLDOEJCDFAA.christopher at bergeron.com 
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    class=204373805-31012002>> <FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#000000 
    size=3>What kind of work do you have to do on it?
     
    <SPAN 
    class=204373805-31012002>Mainly coding the interface and making it pretty 
    and more functional.  Right now it's very kludgy (functional, but 
    terse).  Once the interface is streamlined and therefore: sellable I'll 
    be able to get to the next level.  The problem I'm at now is that I 
    code in perl/GTK and some of my co-developers [sourceforge 
    (project: dashpc)] want to re-do it in Java.  Java is nice because it's 
    cross-platform and all, but it's slow and my interface is more responsive 
    (aka: easier to sell).  We've been trying to negotiate something we all 
    agree on, but each person has a different road they want to take the 
    project.
     
    Ho 
    hum.... if I'd only learned C++ in high school and not Pascal my life would 
    probably be much better/simpler right now.
     
    I 
    do know C,C++.  However, I program in PHP and Perl at work; and I know 
    +squat+ java.  I could probably pick up java easily, but I just don't 
    know if my brain can handle another language...
     
    <SPAN 
    class=204373805-31012002>...ugh.
     
    <SPAN 
    class=204373805-31012002>Basically, I want someone to rewrite my code in C 
    or C++ and I will give them a hefty percentage stake in my "company".  
    The company is not formally established yet, however, the project is 
    going to be featured on TechTV's "Screen Savers" in about 3 months (they're 
    waaaaay booked out according to the booking manager).  I can't help but 
    think that out of a few million viewers there might be one or two "healthy" 
    investors lurking.
     
    I 
    would be willing to create the worlds first "Open Source Company" with this 
    project (the [currently non-existent]automotive "pc" market that's expected 
    to top $2 Billion in just a few years).  I really want this 
    project to succeed at this point not so much for the monetary reason 
    (although that is a huge motivator) but for the simple fact that I don't 
    want MS to come along and "take the idea" and use their clout to put it in 
    every car out there.  I would have to shoot myself if I bought a car 
    equipped with "a Microsoft CE powered AutoPC unit for GPS, DVD, and 
    MP3"  <SPAN 
    class=204373805-31012002>We could call it the proverbial "kick sand in 
    Microsoft's face" since as far as I'm aware M$+Clarion and myself are the 
    only ones seeing that $2B potential.
     
    I 
    guess I'll just see how it goes and take it as I have been:  winging 
    it!  Wish me luck.  It's a _huge_ goal, but if I'm going to do 
    anything with this life of mine, I want it to be _big_.  My desire to 
    make this (and anything I ever do) succeed is higher now than it's ever been 
    (and I can thank you Osama, you f*ckhead - rot in hell).
     
    <SPAN 
    class=204373805-31012002>proud to be an American,
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    class=204373805-31012002>-CB
     
     
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      <FONT face=Tahoma 
      size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Mark E. Schill [<A 
      class=moz-txt-link-freetext 
      href="mailto:Mark.Schill at cmschill.net">mailto:Mark.Schill at cmschill.net]Sent: 
      Wednesday, January 30, 2002 7:42 PMTo: Christopher 
      BergeronSubject: Re: [ale] Ale Inc.? (was RE: [ale] surviving 
      sans workWhat kind of work do you have to do on 
      it?MarkChristopher Bergeron wrote:
      <BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid:IOEKLKGAEODGGPOJGNLDAEFFDFAA.christopher at bergeron.com 
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        <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
        size=2>Believe it or not, I haven't looked for any funding yet!  
        I'm trying to keep this project "under the radar" as it were (even 
        though I get multiple-daily hits from microsoft.com).  No doubt 
        they're eyeing my progress.  I just recently changed the page to 
        "redirect" them to a great XXX site I know of.  I can't keep it a 
        secret, but I can do my best to outperform them... 
        
         
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        <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
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          <FONT face=Tahoma 
          size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Mark E. Schill [<A 
          class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="mailto:Mark.Schill at cmschill.net"> 
          mailto:Mark.Schill at cmschill.net ]Sent: Tuesday, January 
          29, 2002 9:19 PMTo: Christopher BergeronSubject: 
          Re: [ale] Ale Inc.? (was RE: [ale] surviving sans 
          workThat is a really cool product. I am supprised 
          you haven't had tons of funding 
          offers.MarkChristopher Bergeron wrote:
          <BLOCKQUOTE 
          cite=mid:IOEKLKGAEODGGPOJGNLDEEEIDFAA.christopher at bergeron.com 
          type="cite">You guys are welcome to help me take the dashpc commercial.  I'm currentlycompeting alone _directly_ with microsoft's "AutoPC".  You've probably seenit, but the link is here: http://www.dashpc.com-CB
            -----Original Message-----From: Bao C. Ha [mailto:baoha at sensoria.com]Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 2:46 PMTo: lancesmith at charter.net; 'John Wells'Cc: 'Atlanta Linux User Group (E-mail)'Subject: RE: [ale] Ale Inc.? (was RE: [ale] surviving sans workI have a friend in Atlanta who has been building a homegateway.  He is working on the X10 stuff which cancontrol certain appliances, including heating/cooling,security systems, survellance, ...The current economic climate has prevented me fromactively participating.Maybe we carry this off-line to prevent clustering thelist.Thanks.Bao
              -----Original Message-----From: Lance Smith [mailto:lancesmith at charter.net]Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 10:49 AMTo: John WellsCc: 'Atlanta Linux User Group (E-mail)'Subject: Re: [ale] Ale Inc.? (was RE: [ale] surviving sans workI just posted a survival testimonial and a tactic that I am using. Iwould love to get more ideas to automate new and pre-existing homes. Especially if Linux can be used as the backbone.I can handle the coordination of Technology and Constructionindustries.(i.e., working with insulation/ HVAC companies to plan outsegmentationof the home to control separate room temps)Use of wireless technology tied to a home system thatsynchronizes datebooks and "stuff" though PDA or cell phones as soon as youwalk throughthe door.The ideas are many......anybody interested?<
br><br>LanceJohn Wells wrote:
                I've been thinking about this a long time (it's theMBA in me), but there's an awful lot of talent on thislist.  After this morning's threads, it also seems asif there might be quite a few unemployed talents aswell.So, far-fetched as it might be:With a little brain power, a little organization, anda lot of work, I'm positive that a good, money-makingidea could arise from this group.  On the one hand,the odds are stacked against you quite a bit whencreating your own business.  On the other hand, I knowof many companies who consistently bring in $$ with amuch smaller (and less qualified) talent pool.I think it would be worthwhile to start holding someinformal off-list business endeavor brainstormingsessions.  It can't hurt, and I'd be surprised ifsomething doesn't pop up that might be worthwhilepursuing.Just an idea, and maybe a naive one at that.  Butsometime
s naivety in business can be a blessing,especially when you accomplish something "those in theknow" considered impossible because you naivelyassumed it was.It'd be informative to develop a group profile ofthose interested in pursuing a commoneffort...partitioned by experience (i.e., those withbackgrounds in business, those hardcode techies,newbies, etc.).  Then you could have a real idea ofwhere you could carve your niche.Apologies for sounding like a motivational speaker,but I have entertained the idea of starting a company(don't we all?) for quite sometime.  Every businessstarted somewhere...why not start one here?FWIW, I'd help with the market research (a littleexperience here) and in any other way I could.Just my two cents.JohnJohn__________________________________________________Do You Yahoo!?Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions!http://auctions.yahoo.com---This message has been sent through the ALE general discussion list.See http://www.ale.org/mailing-lists.shtml for more info.Problems should be
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