[ale] Ximian

[Jim Philips]

First of all, KDE 3.0 is not "forthcoming". It is a released product and I am 
using it now. I was using Ximian and decided to try KDE 3.0 after getting 
disillusioned with earlier versions. After a couple of days, I converted 
everything to KDE 3.0. Why? I was at my wit's end trying to resolve all of 
the dependency problems I had with Ximian. Every upgrade seems to break if 
not a whole program, at least selected features on some program. The problem 
is worse if you use Red Carpet for upgrades. The people at Ximian seem to be 
waiting for users to tell them about these dependency issues rather than 
solving them before they release upgrades. Also, I am not impressed with the 
system tools that come with Gnome. I do like the features of Evolution, but 
it ran unbelievably slow on my computer. And Nautilus is still one of the 
biggest memory hogs I have ever used.

KDE 3.0 has been a pleasant surprise for me. It's easy to adjust the system to 
give you less eye candy and thus consume less memory. Setting up a printer is 
a breeze and faxing programs come with KDE. The Ximian folks seem to see this 
as an "extra". I think that the sound daemon for KDE, arts, is superior to 
esd and I'm enjoying that very much. I could go on, but overall, I'm very 
pleased with the new KDE. I think that soon the only Gnome program I'll be 
running is GIMP.  This is all just my experience. YMMV.

On Tuesday 23 April 2002 09:15 am, Eater wrote:
> Something I wanted to mention at the Kennesaw meeting, but forgot about...
>
> I've been considering migrating from KDE to the Ximian desktop.  I've been
> fairly happy with KDE, but I still experience occasional instability
> problems and enfuriating inconsistencies in the interface moving between
> programs. I've been eyeballing Ximian lately as a possible solution to
> these problems. I've finally resolved in my own mind that I'm not above
> paying for something commercially produced, either :-)
>
> My reservations are this:
>
> Is Ximian truly a solution for these issues?
>
> Are there compatibility problems between Ximian and Redhat 7.2 (and what
> about 7.3?)
>
> Will the forthcoming KDE 3.0 release provide an equal, if not better
> desktop than Ximian?
>
> I'd be eager to hear anyone shed some light on these points.  I'm also
> curious if anyone has experience with commercial X servers as an
> alternative to XFree86.
>
> Cheers,
> Eater


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