[ale] inventing the future: university vs corp

[Chris Fowler]

>
> If AT&T had their choice, Unix would have been destroyed in middle
> of the '80.  Their commercialization of Unix had been a total
> disaster due to corporate greeds.  It is still mind-boggling how
> such a premier corporate research institution like Bell Labs ended
> up to be Lucent.  IBM's Thomas J. Watson research center is still
> pumping out advances despite all of the ups and downs.

Why blame them?  Years later UNIX has proven to be far superior than
any other solution.  Right?  :)

Chris


-----Original Message-----
From: Geoffrey [mailto:esoteric at 3times25.net]
To: ale at ale.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 3:42 PM
To: Bao C. Ha
Cc: ale at ale.org
Subject: Re: [ale] inventing the future: university vs corp


Bao C. Ha wrote:
> Hi Geoffrey,
>
> I just have a knee-jerked reaction to Chris' statement.
>
>
>>>And who perfected it?  Certainly not AT&T/Bell Labs?
>>>
>>Cheap shot.  So you discount that which Bell Labs did for UNIX?
>>
>
> I don't discount Bell Labs of funding the development of Unix.
> Unix has been successful because of the cooperation between
> academia and corporations in the early days.  I still hold the
> view that Unix is so popular and successful now because of
> Berkeley's involvment, which has also been the driver of the
> open-source movement.  And I am a System V person, not BSD!

Agreed.

>
> If AT&T had their choice, Unix would have been destroyed in middle
> of the '80.  Their commercialization of Unix had been a total
> disaster due to corporate greeds.  It is still mind-boggling how
> such a premier corporate research institution like Bell Labs ended
> up to be Lucent.  IBM's Thomas J. Watson research center is still
> pumping out advances despite all of the ups and downs.

Agreed.  You are forgiven. :)

>
> Bao

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