[ale] Spam and ale (An unappetizing meal)

[Eric Z. Ayers]

I was wrong, it isn't ORBS, it's MAPS that we are using, and these IPs 
are not in MAPS, (yet) but I've started the ball rolling on one of
them. I remember Robbie telling us before that ORBS is easy to get on
and hard to get off.  (In fact the old ale.org server is in the ORBS
database...  Robbie fixed the problem a couple of years ago...)  the
MAPS folks are less "hard core".  

I don't like spam either, but again, I'm not going to invest hours of
my time configuring another anti-spam scheme (or ask anyone else to)
and cause pain and suffering for all the list members to prevent what
appears to be at most one spam a day. Of course, if the spam gets
worse, we can re-consider.    

What I will do is follow up on the spam that we do get and try
to get the open relays fixed or added to the MAPS database.

-Eric.

Joe Steele writes:
 > Hmm...  All the spam that I have seen recently on the ALE list was 
 > relayed through hosts which are listed in ORBS.  That includes:
 > 
 > 216.216.47.210
 > Subject: [ale] Matrimonial, 
 > Date: Sun, 24 Sep 00 20:19:35 Pacific Daylight Time
 > 
 > 203.69.38.37
 > Subject: [ale] Clinics for the Future. Barrons article on DNAP !!
 > Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 16:31:00
 > 
 > 203.69.38.37
 > Subject: [ale] DNAP EMERGING BIOTECH TRADING UNDER $1  !!!            
 > Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:26:49
 > 
 > 203.69.38.37
 > Subject: [ale] READRITE FORMS FIBER OPTICS COMPANY!!!!!!!              
 > Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:11:08
 > 
 > If ORBS is being used to filter the list, then why are these getting through?
 > 
 > --Joe
 > 
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From:	Eric Z. Ayers [SMTP:eric.ayers at mindspring.com]
 > Sent:	Friday, September 22, 2000 9:51 PM
 > To:	Brian J. Dowd
 > Cc:	Ale at ale.org
 > Subject:	[ale] Spam and ale (An unappetizing meal)
 > 
 > 
 > Robbie has done a lot to cut down on spamming by configuring the
 > ale.org mailer daemon to use the open relay list (ORBS) to block mail
 > from open relays.  Most spammers rely on routing mail through
 > unsuspecting 3rd parties to relay their stuff, and by blocking the
 > open relays you can eliminate most spam attempts. 
 > 
 > My personal opinion is that the amt. of Spam isn't high enough to
 > erect a barrier to befuddle people trying to post legitimate questions
 > to the list.  I guess that's because I get tons more of it at work
 > than at home.
 > 
 > -Eric.
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