[ale] bleeding edge (was why so difficult)

[Jeff Hubbs]

Actually, I'm planning on serving up some LEGAL mp3s at some point - I
have hours and hours of stuff.  I have some great tapes of my father
reading poetry and if I can make sure the poems themselves are public
domain, I'd put them up in a shot.  Among all the audio material I have,
I have some small percentage that I'd serve up if for no other reason
than some hapless soul might download it on a whim and get a chuckle.

- Jeff


Douglas Bridges wrote:
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Agent Durga" <durga at burntmedia.org>
> To: <ale at ale.org>
> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 7:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [ale] bleeding edge (was why so difficult)
> 
> > On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, jiin wrote:
> >
> > > Bleeding edge stuff? hell I am just trying to play mp3's on my box.
> >
> > -mp3s, while a great compromise between quality and file size, are still
> > worthless and unless you own a copy of an album containing the tracks, are
> > illegal....but i'm very anti-mp3 but it's simply because I have a fairly
> > large music collection....and have spent quite a bit of money on it...
> 
> Mp3s are illegal only as much as computer programs are illegal. You assume
> that the only mp3s that anyone wants are ones illegally ripped off of CDs.
> That is the same as saying that the only computer programs are the ones that
> they can buy at CompUSA. Personally, I like the free software that I use.
> In the same way, I am very pro-mp3(the format) because it does offer a great
> compromise between quality and file size.
> 
> >
> > > but I think the distros
> > > can do a better job of updating their software.
> >
> > -i haven't upgraded to SuSE 7.0 yet, but so far, I have been *extremely*
> > happy with their packaging...the price is beyond reasonable when i examine
> > how much comes standard....if you aren't satisfied with the frequency of
> > updates, then write a program that will search for the most recent
> > update...windows and macs both have this feature in some way or another,
> > so be the person that makes it possible for linux users...
> 
> Mandrake, Redhat, and Debian all have programs that will do that. I don't
> use SuSE, so I don't know about it.
> 
> >
> > otherwise, don't complain...
> 
> His complaint wasn't about what came with his distribution or where he can
> get updates. He was complaining about the proccess of actually running the
> updates, and the problems that RPMs can have.
> 
> >
> > > I dont mean to be the voice of doom here but linux needs to get its
> stuff
> > > together if we are going to make a run at the idiots market.
> >
> > -why would you want to even get the idiot market?...linux *isn't* easy
> > when compared with windows or macs, but over time things become second
> > nature....think of the "dumb" questions those users already have with
> > their operating system...can you imagine trying to walk them through
> > editing their httpd.conf file with vi or emacs?.....
> >
> 
> Linux us whatever you want it to be. I think it is wrong to say that people
> shouldn't make a version of Linux for the "idiot market".  The entire point
> of using open software is that you can do whatever you want with it.  If I
> go and make an version of Linux that you don't need to get under the hood to
> work with, what is wrong with that? If you want to use the command line and
> text config files for everything you do, great! However, I want to be able
> to use a nice graphical configuration program to set up what I want to do.
> 
> I know I am rambling a bit (or a lot), but I really get aggrevated when
> people get so elitist about Linux.  Should people only be able to take the
> bus because they can't switch out the timing belt in their car?
> 
> > i didn't think so....linux is an operating system for people that want to
> > get under the hood....and that's a dangerous ability to give a user that
> > doesn't know what they are doing...
> 
> It is not impossible to create a system where people who want to get under
> the hood can, and those that want it to run on autopilot can.
> 
> >
> > -drew
> >
> > --
> >    The best book on programming for the layman is "Alice in Wonderland";
> >      but that's because it's the best book on anything for the layman.
> >
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> 
> Doug Bridges
> "A conclusion is simply the place where someone got tired of thinking."
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