[ale] linuxgruven.com

[Stephen F Nicholas]

You're being 38 doesn't have anything to do with it.  I'm 42, went baack
to college at 34, and taught myself 'some' Unux / Linux.  I've worked in
mgmt and retail.  The 'sleeziest' companies I either have worked for or
heard of from associates, at worst, pay for the training up front and
require you to work for them a specific amount of time (2 years
normally.)  And the companies weren't really sleezy (at least in this
respect), they were protecting themselves.  If you left before the agreed
upon time, the cost was prorated.  You don't get a free education and they
don't get screwed.

I agree with James,  if you're required to pay $2500 up front, this
doesn't smell good.  And you'll 'probably' get a call tomorrow that you've
been accepted.  Nothing is done overnight.  You can teach yourself, or at
'least' choose your teacher.  There are plenty of good books out
there.  One thing I've always told myself, I've met some 'EXTREMELY' smart
people in my time, but the ones that call themselves experts, run like
hell.

Run away, run very far away.  The BBB or Channel 2 would probably be
interested in this.  I wish you good luck in your endeavors.

Steve

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On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, James Kinney wrote:

> Run away screaming and call the BBB.
> 
> No legit company is going to charge en employee an "upfront fee" for their
> own training. 
> 
> It stinks of scam. They sell "training" with the potential that you can
> land a $45K job afterwards.
> 
> JimK
> Local Net Solutions
> 
> On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, jiin wrote:
> 
> > I apologize for the off topic post. however I need some information about 
> > this company.
> > 
> > I answered an ad in the AJC and had an interview with a company called 
> > linuxgruven.com today. Offices in Lennox Towers across from Lennox Mall. I 
> > spent two hours in the interview including a short written test. ( why 
> > weren't they at the ALS? )
> > 
> > Their offer was very nice and I have no idea if I will be accepted or not 
> > until tommorow (tues.). The jist of the offer was this: 45k per year <entry 
> > level>, paid health insurance for the family including vision and dental, 
> > 401k and stock options before the IPO is released. The part that smells 
> > like it could be a scam is that they want me to pay $2500 dollars up front 
> > for a 4 week training course to get certified in linux. Not any one 
> > particular distro but "all major" distros. < the $2500 comes back after one 
> > year>. My thought is to sign a contract with them for a year and they pay 
> > the educational fees.
> > 
> > On one hand, if it is legit it is pretty good for a 38 year old trying to 
> > change vocations into something he loves doing. Ironically I just spent 
> > $5000 to get MCSE certified because I became convinced that it was one of 
> > the few ways I could get my foot into the IT door. On the other hand it 
> > just smells a little fishy after thinking about it for a few hours.
> > 
> > My OS of choice is linux without a doubt. However I can not afford to chase 
> > a pipe dream at this point in my life. Their web site is 
> > www.linuxgruven.com. If anyone has any info on the subject please let me know.
> > 
> > thanks,
> > 
> > jiin
> > 
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