[ale] I want to move my Sun Sony GDP 20D10 20" monitor from m y sparc 10 to a pc

Chris Fowler ChrisF at computone.com
Wed Dec 20 14:37:43 EST 2000 




You can always check out ebay.  Is it not possible to lock X into a certain frequency?  Although this will not work at bootup.  You could use a serial console to allow you to use the box without X.

Chris




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From: Armsby John-G16665 [mailto:John.Armsby at motorola.com]
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Subject: RE: [ale] I want to move my Sun Sony GDP 20D10 20" monitor from
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Saturn is $139/$179 AGP/PCI.  I found a Mirage Z-128 card in the same price range.  It  claims to like Linux and fixed frequency monitors.  

 
http://www.mirage-mmc.com/70-78.htm <http://www.mirage-mmc.com/70-78.htm> 
 
According to the Redhat linux support.....
 
http://www.redhat.com/support/hardware/intel/60/rh6.0-hcl-i.ld-11.html#ss11.9 <http://www.redhat.com/support/hardware/intel/60/rh6.0-hcl-i.ld-11.html#ss11.9> 

 
 
MediaVision Proaxcel 128         XF86_SVGA      
Mirage Z-128     XF86_SVGA      
Neomagic         XF86   


 
Maybe this is what I should do.  Ever heard of Mirage? I think I am leaning towards Mirage.................
 
John
 
 
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I'm not sure.  I think you get a special one for the saturn.  How much is the sarutn card? 


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If I use the Saturn, What X server do I use?  Do I just select "other" and manually plug in the Sun monitor specifications?

  
John 
  


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If it is FF, you need the Saturn.  If it is not FF, you can use any good card.  I prefer not to use Saturn.  Personally, I have 3 HP A4033A monitors.  They are 20" and I use the VGA to 5 BNC.  They have a variable frequency and work great.   You can pick them up for around $200 on ebay.  I got mine for doing some Linux consulting work in a HP shop.  I also got a 735/125 HP workstation.

Chris 


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I think it is indeed a fixed frequency monitor. If you can point me to a place that sells cheap cables, I would appreciate it. I am not sure what the merits of a fixed VS otherwise frequency monitor.  I just got the sparc for a deal and now I am trying to make the best use of its parts.  I am a little distressed about the problems you are having with the card.  It is  not cheap.  It should work.

  
Thanks, 
  
John 
  
  
http://www.si87.com/Products/Videocards/Leaves/sony/sonygdm20d10.html <http://www.si87.com/Products/Videocards/Leaves/sony/sonygdm20d10.html>  < http://www.si87.com/Products/Videocards/Leaves/sony/sonygdm20d10.html <http://www.si87.com/Products/Videocards/Leaves/sony/sonygdm20d10.html> >  < http://www.si87.com/Products/Videocards/Leaves/sony/sonygdm20d10.html <http://www.si87.com/Products/Videocards/Leaves/sony/sonygdm20d10.html>  < http://www.si87.com/Products/Videocards/Leaves/sony/sonygdm20d10.html <http://www.si87.com/Products/Videocards/Leaves/sony/sonygdm20d10.html> > > 

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The Saturn card does wrok   We have one here at the office.  However, we've had a few problems.  It seems the display gets screwy.  Our only fix it to do CTRL-ATL-F1 and switch to VS then switch back to X.  This is a pain.  Please make sure that the Sun monitor is in fact FF.  If it is not than maybe you just need a VGA to 5 BNC cable.  If so, I'll point you to a palce that sells them for $10.

Chris 


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I want to move my Sun Sony GDP 20D10 20" monitor from my sparc 10 to a pc.  


I know I need an adapter to enable 13W3 to connect to the HD15 video input on the pc.  I can get that here   http://www.si87.com/Wizards/monitorcable.html <http://www.si87.com/Wizards/monitorcable.html>  < http://www.si87.com/Wizards/monitorcable.html <http://www.si87.com/Wizards/monitorcable.html> >  < http://www.si87.com/Wizards/monitorcable.html <http://www.si87.com/Wizards/monitorcable.html>  < http://www.si87.com/Wizards/monitorcable.html <http://www.si87.com/Wizards/monitorcable.html> > > .

I know I need a video card which will support the fixed frequency requirements of this monitor.  These folks http://www.si87.com/Products/Videocards/Leaves/sony/sonygdm20d10.html <http://www.si87.com/Products/Videocards/Leaves/sony/sonygdm20d10.html>  < http://www.si87.com/Products/Videocards/Leaves/sony/sonygdm20d10.html <http://www.si87.com/Products/Videocards/Leaves/sony/sonygdm20d10.html> >  < http://www.si87.com/Products/Videocards/Leaves/sony/sonygdm20d10.html <http://www.si87.com/Products/Videocards/Leaves/sony/sonygdm20d10.html>  < http://www.si87.com/Products/Videocards/Leaves/sony/sonygdm20d10.html <http://www.si87.com/Products/Videocards/Leaves/sony/sonygdm20d10.html> > >  

claim they have just the ticket, their Saturn GL card, composed of a Permedia 2 chipset, 8 meg, PCI, and manufactured by 3Dlabs  will work great.

My concern is that RedHat 6.1 Intel Linux drivers will be confused and befuddled.  I don't see any obvious compatibility with Saturn.  The Permedia 2 chipset is peppered in other manufacturers cards in the compatibility list.  I am not sure these cards support fixed frequency cards.  I am not sure if these Linux X servers will like the monitor or not.  I see some commercial drivers but don't want to spend any more money than I have to.

Has anyone done what I want to do?  What did you do?  What card are you using?  What Xserver did you use?  Did it work well with Win98 (I will dual boot) ??

There were some earlier posts on this subject but I wasn't up to speed.  My sparc is a boat anchor. 



John 



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