[ale] Totally OT

OMUser=Michael Smith masmith at bsat.com
Thu Oct 28 12:44:54 EDT 1999


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      I think that what they are doing is using a timer on the mouse
over event and if you stay over it a number of seconds or milliseconds
it fires the url retrieve command.  I think they need to increase the
amount of time before they fire off the url retrieve command or take out=

that functionality all together.  I guess it was one of those tricks
Microsoft used to try to make IE 5.0 faster than Netscape.  Instead it
appears to be a hindrance.....

=2D----Original Message-----
 From: owner-ale at ale.org [mailto:owner-ale at ale.org]On Behalf Of Joe
Steele
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 11:32 AM
To: 'Irv Mullins'
Cc: ale at ale.org
Subject: RE: [ale] Totally OT


I replicated the phenomenon.  I'm sorry to say that the truth makes far
less interesting reading than everyone's conjectures :-(

Among IE's list of recently typed URLs was the following URL:

ftp://ftp.efficient.com/pub/support/5000/5250/5250ins.pdf

When the dropdown box was opened, tcpdump (see tcpdump below) showed
that IE looked up ftp.efficient.com, and then proceeded to establish an
ftp connection (see ftp commands below) wherein IE changes directories
into /pub/support/5000/5250/.

A logical approach would have been for IE to wait and see if the user
actually clicks on the URL before taking any action, but logic is
apparently not the MS way.

=2D-Joe

tcpdump:

10:31:08.750940 joe.local.2021 > lan2.local.domain: 1+ A?
ftp.efficient.com. (35)
10:31:08.750940 lan2.local.domain > joe.local.2021: 1 2/4/4 CNAME
webserv.efficient.com., A webserv.efficient.com (227)
10:31:08.920923 webserv.efficient.com.ftp > joe.local.2022: S
241651:241651(0) ack 92538493 win 8760 <mss 1460> (DF)
10:31:08.920923 user-37ka0pg.dialup.mindspring.com.61687 >
webserv.efficient.com.ftp: . ack 241652 win 8760 (DF)
10:31:09.070908 webserv.efficient.com.ftp > joe.local.2022: P 1:51(50)
ack 1 win 8760 (DF)
10:31:09.070908 user-37ka0pg.dialup.mindspring.com.61687 >
webserv.efficient.com.ftp: P 0:16(16) ack 51 win 8710 (DF)
10:31:09.300885 webserv.efficient.com.ftp > joe.local.2022: P 51:123(72)=

ack 17 win 8744 (DF)
10:31:09.300885 user-37ka0pg.dialup.mindspring.com.61687 >
webserv.efficient.com.ftp: P 16:32(16) ack 123 win 8638 (DF)
10:31:09.520863 webserv.efficient.com.ftp > joe.local.2022: P
123:177(54) ack 33 win 8728 (DF)
10:31:09.660849 user-37ka0pg.dialup.mindspring.com.61687 >
webserv.efficient.com.ftp: . ack 177 win 8584 (DF)
10:31:09.890827 webserv.efficient.com.ftp > joe.local.2022: P
177:399(222) ack 33 win 8728 (DF)
10:31:09.920824 user-37ka0pg.dialup.mindspring.com.61687 >
webserv.efficient.com.ftp: P 32:38(6) ack 399 win 8362 (DF)
10:31:10.080808 webserv.efficient.com.ftp > joe.local.2022: P RL which
you have
visited recently, but don't click on any URL, there is some data
transferred
over the net.

Now, I'm not paranoid or anything, but just what info gets sent out, and=

who
do you suppose gets that info? Hmmm? Bet someone on this list knows.

Regards,
Irv


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